Forum: Complaint & Debate


Subject: Before you depart,remember this is YOUR site.

dlm opened this issue on Sep 18, 2000 ยท 41 posts


dlm posted Mon, 18 September 2000 at 12:05 AM

It,s true that without Jack and Eds hard work Renderosity would not be the site it is today.Its also true that without Edgenet there would be no place for Renderosity to go,however what is most importantly true here is that without you,the members there would be no Renderosity at all.This site was built up by the combined contributions of each and every member.From those amazingly talented and generous folk who built models,created textures and such like, to those who just hung around the forums and answered the questions.Each and every one sewed the little stiches that went into making the rich tapestry that is Renderosity. The way I see what has happened is this. Jack and Ed,figured that because of their hard work and because renderosity was doing so well they could somehow capitilise on it and make some serious money.That seems a reasonable plan to me but prehaps they could have been more open about it.To do so the profile of the site had to change to make it more attractive as a buisness venture.Hence the store and the brilliant idea of taking the more talented and productive members with them as they changed that profile to stop the rest of us crying foul.Money talks and it worked,why would,nt it? wer,e all human after all and we could all do with a bit extra income.Attempts were made to increase sales figures by putting textures and poses in the free stuff that only related to items for sale and even the new type of competition where you had to buy stuff to enter.All good buisness practice exept of course this isn,t anyones buisness site this is a forum that in the end belongs to it,s members.It was clear to many what was happening and some complained,some left. Stage two appears to have been the proposed merger with Zygote which would have raised the capitol to buy the domain name from Edgenet.I,m not sure here why Zygote are making a big deal about wanting the membership database here as a lot of that was transfered to them with the Zygote trojan camel,but whatever, it,s clear that by swallowing Renderosity they would have made themselves a better target for a takeover. Stage three would have been the sale of Jack,Ed,Renerosity Zygote ltd to Curious Labs at a considerable profit. Edgenet got the drop on Jack and Ed, and realised that with Curious Labs interest there was big money to be made.Despite brokering the deal Jack and Ed were ousted.There main complaint in the posting from them is that by upping the domain price stage two is dead in the water. This means Jack and Ed have nothing to sell(just like the rest of us members) and dont profit from the deal unless they can prove Renderosity is their "intellectual property" or if they retain ownership of the membership database. The legality of ANYONE selling the membership database is in question. At the end of the day no one including Jack or Ed comes out of this smelling of roses. The only people who did nothing wrong are you the hard working members who built this site. Now you are being asked to press the self destruct button and destroy your domain as either an act of sympathy for Jack and Ed,who conjoured up the Fiscal Spectre that stabbed them themselves or as a protest against Edgenet who by locking Jack and Ed out of the site show that they are none to proud of there own actions and I suspect unsure as to where they stand legally with selling the membership database. Until someone does something to prove otherwise this site is YOUR site.It has not been sold to anyone.To destroy it because of what happened to Jack and Ed because they chose to swim with sharks would be a sad and at this moment pointless act.You have all worked very hard to build this site.Think long and hard before you decide,and good luck wherever you go.