i found bu mere luck asmall newbie/layer trick to be able to use textured cloth (and cellsahd them) or use transmapped items without tweaking normals, and use also material transparency (full or partial) out of P4 p4 do not hae material room or shaders so of course i did not obtain it directly from p4 but with very basic layering postwork and some foreplanning. I first tried my experiment with the KAWA REV2 for mayadoll from batlab. It is not the most complex regarding the challenge but it has a full lace transmapped fabric material that of course cannot be rendered under p4 toon mode. I also tried with two textured tanktop (with logos i designed or reproduced for two websites) but withotu using my shading technics (that requires the use of a smooth shaded 3d render to be combined with toon one) so i could keep the whole thing (texture, cloth, etc) as a toon style. will post some other sample while i am experimetning