What is the likely delivery daye of Poser 5 and Bryce 5? Bryce needs a scripting language like Poser, readable by people, so it can refer out to models and objects and texture maps instead of having to waste reams of hard disk storing internal copies of everything in that Area-51-impenetrable binary code that it uses. I recently set up a scene with 8 objects (4 people, 1 flamethrower, 2 walls, 1 road) and some textures, and the file .BR4 file was 24 megabytes long. I don't want too many of that sort of disk hog in my hard disk.