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For all the available morphs, the Millenium Cat seems to be missing a few that would enhance realistic posing. Cats have amazing control of their ears, turning them completely around independently to track sounds. I haven't found a way to do that realistically. Our cat gets a "big tail" when she's been frightened. It fluffs up so that it looks twice its normal size over its entire length. The Mil Cat has a tail fluff morph, but it only affects the last 2/3 of its length. Almost the entire tail can be fluffed manually, section by section, except for the tail's connection to the rump. (You can see my attempt at a "big tail" in the last frame here: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=621617) Any suggestions?

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Michael - I think here at Renderosity in freestuff there is a fluff tail for a cat or any creature/critter whose tail is fluffy or can have a fluffed state. I didn't look to see if it was here before telling you, but it's either here or at 3dcommune. Have a look - good luck.
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And the Bushy tail is made by Little_Dragon :o) But I haven't noticed that the fluff tail morph didn't cover the whole tail? I'm pretty sure it does on my cat. You DO use the Full Body Morph, right? I agree about the ears.

Is this fluffy enough for you?

No postwork. My Millennium Catwoman character in Free Stuff has some additional head morphs that are MilCat-compatible. Just transfer them with Morph Manager or Maconstructor.

Little Dragon: Fantastic, if many more than I was looking for. I think I have your Catwoman already. I'll check out the morphs and your tail. Although it looks like the tail problem is solved, just for the record I've included a graphic to illustrate what I was talking about, showing the Mil Cat tail fluff dial at 0.750.

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Whoops, I mean 0.8...

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It's a poser figure. It has limitations. :)

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Even if it wasn't a Poser figure, it would have limitations. Sorry, Anton, but those paws ought to have been spreadable... so that the cat could pounce upon mousies, wash between them, AND take a good swipe at people who didn't worship it on sight. That's like modeling Vicki wearing mittons instead of fingers. Carolly

I thought the paws were spreadable. The paws on the cat in post 4 look wider than the paws of the cat in post 5.

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There is a spread morph. But perhaps hauksdottir was hoping for posable toes.

where did that come from?

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beats me. Though I think someone complained in another thread that the claws weren't retractable... but the claws are retractable. :) Methinks they don't own the figure and make interesting assumptions. ;)

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I do own the cat... and someone else is making the assumptions. The toes are not posable. They are glued together, with no real geometry between them. My remark about mittons is valid. My cat has thumbs. And even as furry as she is (a Norwegian Forest Cat), the toes are quite obviously and visibly separate structures. If it wasn't for the extremely long fur on the bottoms (suitable for walking on snow), she'd have had the front door open by now. It has been years since I clipped her claws (she has sisal and trees), and so I'm well aware of what spread, natural, unretracted, sharp claws look like. I also have a few scars from cat games... tag being a favorite of hers. She does like having her paws and between her toes rubbed just like we humans appreciate a hand or foot massage. Look at the image (right hand camera set to 100 focal). The best thumb I can get is using the claw dial on the wrist set to 1... any higher and it makes a long cup, leaving the claw down inside like a calla lily. ;p Without a thumb it is very hard to hold down prey. The spread dial on the paw yields... well... it looks like marshmallows stuck together. Maybe the toes don't have to work independently, but they ought to be present. This becomes even more necessary when you consider morphability, and variations such as Lyne's Wild Cats. This cat is definately an improvement, but it also has faults. Carolly

It looks better when textured, but yes, the paws could use more detail. Unfortunately, there's only so much you can do with a polygonal mesh alone, and without dynamic fur to fill out the underlying form, the model-maker has to approximate the overall shape. A custom thumb morph might help, hauksdottir. I'll take a closer look next week and see if there are enough vertices to make it possible.

Thank you, and Skrogg thanks you. She's having a rough night. An orange tom keeps coming inside... and he peed on her catnip mouse. I can wash the tablecloth, but her mouse might be a lost cause. :( Carolly

That actually looks pretty good. Then again, my cat is very small. She has tiny dainty paws that don't ever seem to open much, but she is a mouser. My boyfriend's cat on the other hand is a Maine Coon, and she's massive, and I have seen her spread her paws out. Freaky how big they can be, but the fur does cover 'em up. She's a big chicken who doesn't seem inclined to hunt. :D

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Yes, there are some issues there, every model always will have some. However, the paws were a nice evolutionary jump over the P4 cat. And I think I made the right decisions on amount of detail vs. a polygon budget. And yes, the amounts of toe detail, and ear fold detail, inner mouth details, was territory I covered quite a few times. Clearly in the future, when the average computer hardware base is more robust, allowing me a larger budget to work with, I can address percieved weaker areas; assuming confidently that there will be newer versions of the cat

Laugh at Caly's pics... yes that Coon has quite furry feet! She must be twice the size of Skrogg (my Wegie is less than 9 pounds). However, even your dainty little lady cat has rounded toes showing through her fur. MallenLane, We understand tough choices. I would have left off the whiskers and eyebrows and used those polys elsewhere. They don't even show at medium distance. They can be painted in or smart propped (I have Jackie's whisker prop for the P4 cat) if whiskers are needed. If the whiskers were separate, then statues of Bast, etc., would look better. And as a separate prop, they can be curled or lengthened or styled to match the breed. I'd also recommend grouping with collar pieces. That would hopefully allow for placing the legs together properly in front and the up and down motion of the shoulder-blades. I remember CGA art, although I was fortunate not to have to deal with stick figures. We have come a long way in 15 years. The future can only bring more possibilities. Carolly

I'm seriously looking forward to advanced technology. I just love how computers are changing and improving and even video game consoles are getting sophisticated. Now if only all of the prices would hurry up and drop before I die of old age. :D

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Oh I think Ele is a good 15lbs if not more. I sometimes suspect it's all fur. She certainly slims down after a bath. :D

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