heyas; i can't believe you guys are doing this all over again. okay, if you weren't here a year ago, i guess you have an excuse; but the rest of you are just repeating history. there is NO cause for ANYbody to run around calling anyone else names (visitors or moderators), calling people nazis, dogs, blah blah blah; screaming and wailing and gnashing, and all those hystrionics. some people (you know who you are!) are even repeating their EXACT same statements and opinions they had last year. besides, some of the people who are leaving now, DIDN'T leave last year. so those who left last year were whiny sheep, and those who leave this year aren't? those who stay this year are nazis, and those who stayed last year weren't? this double-standard is just silly. look, edgenet and the (former) renderosity management had a disagreement and split. nobody likes that, but that's the way it is. yes, i would like to know what happened just as much as anybody else. screaming and ranting and ankle-biting isn't going to get anybody anywhere. if you have politely asked for an explanation, and didn't get one (or didn't like the one you got), then you should leave, if you feel that is in your best interests. there isn't anything you can do to change things. you certainly aren't gonna change anybody else's mind about THEIR staying or leaving. they are making their own decisions, which are just as valid as yours, so leave them alone. jack and ed don't want all this uproar and infighting to happen, so knock it off. also please remember, YOU can delete all your stuff, you don't have to wait for edgenet to do it for you. (granted, it'll take a while for you to search for all your stuff.) YOU can delete your membership, or change/withhold your personal information. YOU can leave renderosity at any time, you don't have to ask edgenet to ban you. if you need to vent your anger, frustration, rage, disappointment and sadness over this change... i dunno, rent a violent video game or something! :)