Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Conforming to Streched Limbs

mrfong opened this issue on Mar 17, 2004 ยท 7 posts


mrfong posted Wed, 17 March 2004 at 8:51 PM

Is there a way to keep objects (like shoes and stockings) conformed when you strech limbs or conform to streched limbs. I've been trying to put boots on a pair of streched V3 Legs (with the basic strech Legs morph in Body) and can never get them to fit. Positioning manually is fine for simple poses but is there something I'm missing... (Poser5 sr3 Mac OS X.3) Ed

Zicculus posted Wed, 17 March 2004 at 9:28 PM

the program never really seems to work unless you get the workflow of your project exactly right. I wish I could be of more help but I'm just as frustrated. When I make a character I make a demo character just to get the work flow right and then start over and remake the character knowing what problems to look out for!


lhiannan posted Wed, 17 March 2004 at 10:28 PM

In a simple word, no, it won't conform to stretched limbs. But, tweaking is possible, mainly by using the Y-scale dial on the boots. Then there are dynamic deformer packages... I THINK wyrmmaster's newest deformers handle things like this. I don't know if his store is still up in the MP, but it is worth checking out.


FyreSpiryt posted Thu, 18 March 2004 at 6:03 AM

Attached Link: http://www.shininghalf.com/desprit/downloads/V3Tools.zip

This is Miko. Miko is very short (body scaled to 87% from default V3 size). Her legs and arms have also been shortened by turning the "stretch legs" and "stretch arms" dials negative. I tried to put the catsuit on her. Because her body is scaled down, I first parented the suit to her; then when I conform, it inherets her scale. Nifty, huh? (Restore Figure would also cause it to inheret her scale once it is parented to her body.)
  1. Ew. Even with the body scaled, the V3 catsuit doesn't conform so well. It's arms and legs don't match, they're too long.
  2. I added Stretch Legs and Stretch Arms dials by copying the valueParm dials from V3's body into the catsuit's body, then applying the ERC_Inj pose from my nifty magic toolkit. (I have one for M3 as well; just change the V to M in the URL.) Looks like it made the problem worse. The arms and legs are shorter, but they don't line up while conforming. Stupid Poser bugs.
  3. Forget conforming, it's back to the old parent-and-pose technique. I saved Miko's pose to a pose dot, went to the catsuit, conformed it to nothing, then applied the pose dot. Yay, now it fits!

ockham posted Thu, 18 March 2004 at 10:03 AM

Thanks for the "parent-and-pose" hint. I've been trying for hours to fit the All-n-wonder dress to Misaki, which is a similar kind of mismatch. I was conforming first and getting nowhere. Just now I tried it your way, and got a good-enough fit in 10 minutes!

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dburdick posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 5:41 PM

FyreSpiryt: How were you able to "Stretch Legs and Stretch Arms dials by copying the valueParm dials from V3's body into the catsuit's body". I wasn't aware that you could copy these parameters from one figure to completely new figure (e.g. the catsuit). I have exactly the same proble, with using a ssmaller sized model and strugling with conforming clothes


FyreSpiryt posted Wed, 24 March 2004 at 7:56 PM

What you do is open both files in a text editor. In the V3 file, scroll past all of the actor Whatever { geometry stuff} entries, until you get to the second actor Body, which has bunch of lines and then a "channels" section. In the channels section, you'll find channels that start with "valueParm PBMStretchArms" or legs or neck or whatever. Copy the channel, which is the valueParm line, the following {, and everything up to and including the matching }. Just a normal text edit->copy operation. Now, switch to the clothing file, scroll down to the "actor Body" section with channels, and inside that Channels section, paste the "valueParm" channel you copied. Save the clothing item (I usually save under a new name in case I messed something up.)

Now, open up Poser, load up the clothing file you just saved, and apply the "ERC Inj" pose (or whatever I called it. Something like that) from the happy magic zip I linked to up there. Spin the Stretch Arms/Legs/Neck/whatever dial and make sure things are stretching. From Poser, save it back to your library, and it's ready to use.