ok, i know this seems like an idiotic request, but I think it just comes to show that I still have a long way ahead of me before ic an say i really know how to use Poser. I've been trying to get this "Betty Grable" pose on a V3 for hours with unsatisfactory results... my biggest problem is with her twisting her neck and head, I just can't get it right... so, if anyone is kind enough to produce this pose and post the formulas... or make a .pz2 , or if anyone already made this pose, please let me know. Thanks in advance.