x-man opened this issue on Apr 01, 2004 ยท 23 posts
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 7:35 AM
I've complete a new scene and i've saved. When i'm going to reopen scene...SURPRISE!!! some material became totally black, VUE loose the map of mapped material. It know the path and the name of bitmap (i can see on material editor) but don't load the bitmap. Some suggestion ? Thanks xman -------------- Message to e-on : "Please stabilize this program."
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:13 AM
You may have moved or renamed the bitmaps. Otherwise Vue remembers perfectly where your bitmaps are if your scene has been saved. Just reload them by hand and save again:-). This is not Vue's (or e-on's) fault.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:17 AM
No... I've not delete the file... If i go in the texture control panel i can see the exact name and path of the material... but VUE don't load it. VUE fault...
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:19 AM
All the Link are Black...
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:30 AM
What is your EXACT Vue version (build number)?
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:31 AM
Vue4Pro 4.52 Build 268493
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:39 AM
This must (probably) be a graphic card issue. Have you tried to disable OpenGL. Can you post a screenshoot of what you get when you try to load a material (bitmap) manually?
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:47 AM
I've not try to disable OpenGL... so i'm going to test this. I'm rendering now... so i've some problem to mak a screenshot... but what you can see is a black box (where usually you can see the bitmap)
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:52 AM
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 8:55 AM
Of course, in supposing that you have loaded it again.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:01 AM
Yes i've download it... and yes this is black... This or the same in Bump Production or in Transparency Production. The path and the name of bitmap are correct but VUE won't to load it.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:05 AM
Another stange thing about it... I've launch rendercow and i've added only one node. After VUE has sent scene and texture, i've open the TEMP Folder in VueRenderCow directory (on the node) and i've see that all bitmap are 0 (zero) Kb So all the frame rendered are without bitmap. Seem to be like if Vue don't remeber bitmap.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:07 AM
And it's not a OpenGL problem... i've try and also without it i've the same problem.
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:09 AM
I have never seen that. There must be a problem with your bitmap. Can you open it in your paint program and save it under a new name? All my bitmaps loads and shows up, jpgs and bmps. I don't use other formats.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:15 AM
All my bitmap are jpg or bmp, and all can be open with any program without problem. I'm sure the problem is with VUE. I'm working on animation and i'm trying to understand where is the bug.
agiel posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:47 AM
Actually, I have seen something similar happening on some scenes I was working on. Each time I open them, Vue asks me to locate bitmap files again and again, even after saving the scene or copying the bitmap files in Vue's folders. It happens only on a couple of scenes- the others work just fine. I could not figure out why it was happening.
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:53 AM
Laurent, in Vue Pro? And you also got black windows after you have loaded your bitmap?
agiel posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 9:57 AM
Yes in Vue Pro. I only had black bitmaps if I clicked on 'no' to the question about locating the bitmaps once again. It is a really weird problem - I could not find a logic behind it. Another thing I have seen happen sometimes is that I save a scene as a static image, and when I open the scene again, it turns into an animation of 0 seconds all by itself.
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 10:05 AM
That's normal if you click 'no' to the question :-). You must then reload the bitmap to make it show up. (I never had this problem, except after I have moved the bitmap) But the other one happend to me once, my still came up with the timeline open. I had to do a search and found the culprit. I have used the Mercedes from the Vue CD. When you select it it comes already animated. You must then select "not animated" for it. Possibly there are other objects that are animated, I don't know.
x-man posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 11:05 AM
I'm making some test to understand this problem... and i've find another strange thing... I've load my scene (animated): now i want to make a test rendering to view the result. I've tried to render all the animation only with my workstation and the result is 35 min. (low res mode) After this i've launch rendercow on my workstation and i've restart rendering but i've select the netwok render and i've add only my workstation as node: the render time (same scene and seme setting) go to 1 hour !!! So rendercow slow down.
gebe posted Thu, 01 April 2004 at 11:37 AM
I think it announces 1 hour at the beginning, until both computers have understoud what each one has to do. At least it will render much faster. My experience.
firebolt posted Fri, 02 April 2004 at 7:55 AM
Hi! I'm having this effect that I need to relocate materials when opening saved scenes rather often (Vue 4.22). It works fine then, but it really nerves to have to do it over and over again - and I definitely did not move any of the files. Just to let you know - you're not alone with this. I've never tried saying 'No' to the relocate question but I assume I would get the same result as you do.
lingrif posted Sat, 03 April 2004 at 6:09 PM
I also have had the problem with having to locate materials over and over again when opening previously saved scenes. (Vue4 - all updates applied). Materials had not been moved from their original location. I find that Vue always "gives" me the location in the message but it is minus one directory level. It will display H:Vue4buildings when the material is located in H:Vue4Materialsbuildings.