drawbridgep opened this issue on Apr 21, 2004 ยท 25 posts
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:00 AM
judyk posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:03 AM
Noise noise noise... continue, it's fantastic! Very nice modelling, can't wait to see it with some textures.
Incarnadine posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:26 AM
I think it's worth continueing.
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ddruckenmiller posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:33 AM
Irrespective of the actual venue choice, it's bound to be damn intersting.
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:37 AM
Yeah I see your point, airport terminals not the most interesting places. The people in them though.... Shame I don't do people. ;-)
ddruckenmiller posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:46 AM
( apparently I have challenges with people sometimes too 8P ) But the lighting possibilities alone - fake radiosity, some streaming, all kinds of specular hits so some PS and universe postwork too... (plant life optional) Of course, I haven't been too successful at implementing the above, but I can envision it happening here.
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:58 AM
(water under the bridge) Plants in modern open architecture spaces, I think, works really well. Maybe a few palm trees. universe (as Rochr) has shown can do some amazing things. I'm thinking I will continue with this. Gonna have to do some people though :-( Does poser have a "multireplicate, but make different sexes, ages, races, poses and clothing and randomly place in a scene" function? Shame.
ddruckenmiller posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 12:08 PM
What about handling certain group elements as a unit - a combination or convergence of the Flak/Seige 2D plane and Roobol pic matted lattice techniques. Might work as long as the environment is the main character and the people play a supporting role... ?
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 12:13 PM
derjimi posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 12:14 PM
Definately continue! J.
ddruckenmiller posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 2:43 PM
RE: What about - The space is the star here, the people are just window dressing so my thought is that instead of knocking up the poser figures you might be able to substitute 2d pics of groups of people to simulate the press of flesh like Flak did with the undead army in Seige, and/or that you use symmetrical lattices matted with pics the way Roobol does for his characters (and I did for the hummingbird in 'Heirloom Beauties with an unlikely visitor')
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 3:18 PM
Ang25 posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 4:22 PM
Ok this is looking really cool. Keep it going! Got a question for all you people out there that do these detailed type models...Do you use reference pics or do it out of your head? I mean I've been lots of places (especially gymnasiums) and noticed all those things up above, but I couldn't for the life of me sit in front of my pc and remember what any of it looks like out of my head. Just a curiousity, and maybe a reason why I haven't done anything complicated, lol.
drawbridgep posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 4:31 PM
I'm not using a reference for this one. To be honest I did a search for airport terminals, but couldn't find anything good to copy. So decided to make it up. I don't know if you saw the swimming pool I did a few days (and months) back? Now that WAS based on a real pool house.
Flak posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 7:48 PM
Hmm, I like it. Please keep going on it. Poser doesn't have a "make crowd" button (and oh do I wish it did), though you could go looking in the marketplace for things like crowd generators or something (I think there's one but not sure how it works). Dressing up a crowd of modern people in poser would be a right pain in the A because of all the variety in clothing colors and types, though, you could try using the lo-res poser figures whose clothes are just a texture (and not real conforming clothes) to speed things up. I'd give the "roobol" method a go and see how it looks. Or you could do an airport at night sort of scene when there's not too many people there - just need a few cleaners and the odd businessman. The night scene would also let you display the architecture a lot better than if you filled it up with people too. ddruckenmiller - Every figure in Siege was a 3d mesh (no 2d - couldn't get the lighting to work right on 2d figures). The 2d part came after all the 3d had been rendered and involved compositing the 2d renders together (just clarifying).
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Slakker posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 7:54 PM
Very very beautiful modelling... drools
TheBryster posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 9:03 PM Forum Moderator
Great modeling! Are you going to add planes outside?
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pakled posted Wed, 21 April 2004 at 10:01 PM
there's a utility from Bantam software that reportedly makes 'flocks' of objects, and I've seen something in the Marketplace that makes crowds..tho I don't remember the name..:|
looks pretty good..you can always use it for something else..
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drawbridgep posted Thu, 22 April 2004 at 1:48 AM
@The Bryster - Maybe a 2d plane outside. Ha ha ha I'm so funny. OK, I'll get my coat. @pakled - Oohh that's interesting, I feel a search coming on. @Flak - night time is good. might get interesting reflection against the window with a dark sky outside. OK guys. Lots to do.
kaom posted Thu, 22 April 2004 at 2:47 AM
I really like this, kkep working on it, and you'll be glad, I love architecture in Bryce. Nice work..
drawbridgep posted Thu, 22 April 2004 at 6:08 AM
Attached Link: Terminal Movie
New plan. I'm now thinking that to show it off I'm gonna have to crack open Bryces animation studio. Here's a 1.1meg second clip. Be nice to actually have the animation walking through the terminal and up the staircase. I get the feeling this could take me some time.
drawbridgep posted Thu, 22 April 2004 at 6:10 AM
TheBryster posted Thu, 22 April 2004 at 7:29 AM Forum Moderator
DB: AIRPLANES......don't call us, we'll call you.....
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ddruckenmiller posted Sun, 25 April 2004 at 8:22 AM
Never could open up the animation... can you make it available so it can be gotten with a 'save as'?
drawbridgephoto posted Sun, 25 April 2004 at 8:39 AM
It is a direct link to the MPG file. Strange that it's not working. Seems OK to me, but whatever. Try saving and if it puts HTM ext, then rename once it's downloaded to a MPG.
Phil