Forum: Animation


Subject: Blood

creativecontrol opened this issue on Oct 03, 2000 ยท 10 posts


creativecontrol posted Tue, 03 October 2000 at 4:22 PM

Hi everybody! I didn't do any 3D-Animations, or pictures before... I never did anything in 3D. But I have now Bryce 3D and Cinema 4D XL... and I'm shooting a movie, where people are killed... And since ketchup isn't the best way, to bring blood on the screen, I asked myselve if it wouldn't be better, when I would try to create some blood with my new (and unused) programs.. I have the filmmaterial but not the knowledge to make that blood... could anybody help me, with that? A tuorial perhaps?


relik posted Thu, 05 October 2000 at 8:27 PM

Tried to post a rather lengthy reply but it appears the script failed. I don't have any direct experience with Cinema4D, but I can tell you Bryce isn't that flexible. Blood is infinitely simpler to do with practical effects (i.e squibbs, blood capsules, karo syrup and red food coloring) than with a 3-D system. If your film is in the can though, you're gonna have to find some alternatives. E-mail me and I'll be happy to offer some free advice on how I would do it with a 3-D system.


creativecontrol posted Sat, 07 October 2000 at 10:41 AM

Yo, thx for the answer So we already shot the movie and there is no way to cut "real" blood in it, because I can't use blue box or something (my camera isn't that good, it would work) So I really need help... A tutorial would be good... and perhaps another programm (just the name, and I see if I can organize the prog) Thanks CreativeControl@t-online.de


relik posted Sat, 07 October 2000 at 3:20 PM

I can give you some general pointers on where to start. First of all, how are you planning on matching and compositing the 3-D work to the film plates? If you're going to import them into the 3-D program as back ground, you can use a particle fountain to simulate spurting blood and match move the fountains emitter with your back ground plate. You could also just import your film frames and hand animate in 2-D with something like Photoshop. I'll e-mail you more details, on these options, as the how-to is too lengthy to post here.


creativecontrol posted Sat, 07 October 2000 at 3:49 PM

Well, on some parts I have straight camera angles not moved (but the actors move)...but perhaps I have also some moved shots (i don't know now)... Photoshop is too hard to animate with I think.. because you have draw every pixel.. But I don't have any experiences with Bryce.. so just e-mail the best way to do it... thank you very much creative control


creativecontrol posted Mon, 09 October 2000 at 8:28 AM

So, I continue and try to get this damn blood running... but it doesn't look like blood, because emitter only creates round balls... do you know, larry, how I can change that? What's the name of the option? Or anything? I can't help me anymore...


relik posted Mon, 09 October 2000 at 9:18 AM

Got your last e-mail. I'm downloading a demo of Cinema 4-D to get you specifics. Please e-mail with descriptions of scenes and what you are trying to get. I'll get back to you.


relik posted Mon, 09 October 2000 at 9:25 AM

Found the solution in Cinema 4D for how to set up the particles. Look in your documentation for the tutorial on Particle Systems and the mini-tutorial on using metaballs for particle objects. Play with it a little. I'll work through with the demo version and get a better idea of the effects, but again, if I have an idea of what exactly you need to create I can tell you better how to do it. A frame or sequence of frames might be helpful too. E-mail me tonight and we'll arrange something.


creativecontrol posted Mon, 09 October 2000 at 11:32 AM

Okay, I will capture something... will give you some pictures and perhaps upload a video (of course not very good quality, because that would mean 100 MB per minute!) Thanks a lot Manuel


creativecontrol posted Mon, 09 October 2000 at 1:32 PM

Attached Link: http://duelproductions.bizland.com

Okay, Larry I uploaded a video and 25 frames (so 1 second!) on my website... you have to download it http://duelproductions.bizland.com Thank you very much