I just completed a project a week ago and have been trying some lighting and character tests for my next project when all of a sudden, I can't get Depth Map Shadows period unless I use the P4 renderer instead of FF. Simple primitive scene with 4 lights. Default infinited lights, spotlight, turning on and off shadow on ground plane. I can get raytraced shadows fine, but ALL depth map shadows have disappeared. I have read at length in this Forum, the problem with SR4 and depth map shadows back in March, but I'm getting this problem in SR3. Should I upgrade to SR4 (is SR4.1 depth map shadow fix out now?) Has anyone had this problem before? ~Orodreth