....and yet another thread in our long discussion:) I have just sent out betas of the "Summer Wear One" package for animedoll out to all the testers. If you are a tester and you didn't recieve yours, let me know. If you like the package, post some pictures. marty

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well it became so long that in fact it would even worth you making a forum for your products on your team website, i guess ! (a phpbb one anyway; for search engin it is rather better thazn here :)

i hope to add a forum to my site one day. but i have to find new hosting first,my hosting company is sucking me dry on bandwith prices. the3dzone

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We don't have a team website yet, at least I don't think so. For best exposure to the 3d community, I honestly feel its best to keep the forum running here. With the next product release, I will be posting these links on all the promo pages. Now that you mention it, I have a little pet project that I started because I am sick of censorship and whiney people that impose a sort of un-official censorship. Its a website, but I don't really have a server for it and all the expertise to set it up. It needs a forum to work really well. Does anyone want to help. You can see my prototype idea at http://www.geocities.com/insomniawork/. thank you marty

LMAO! TOO FUNNY :0)

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Thank you 3d:)

I got it, will try it later!

There are two things wrong with the beta that I have already cought. One is an eronious MAT zone in the outfit's top. I have already fixed this. The second is there are eronious lines in the shorts showing up in cartoon w/line mode in PPP. They should not be there and how they got there is beyond me. My methods usually prevents this but somehow has caused this. I have already fixed the problem with a weld. marty

I have re-uploaded a new beta with changes I previously mentioned and posted. I have informed all testers by IM. If you didn't recieve one, please let me know. marty

Ahh a new home. :D

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Yup, a new home. Hey check out my very first zippers:) I am so proud!!! My next project will need a zipper. marty

OK I had to play with the summer wear instead of going to bed. This is my first toon style render so bear with me while I learn the ropes. I call it "Ewww! What did I step in!"

I found a couple glitches in the top, there are 2 spots on the back where it looks like the seam between the chest ond collars are coming through. the only other problem I see, and it seems to be a common one with conforming skirts, is that the seem loses its clean lines and starts to spread out in some ares and thin out in others but not realy where you think it would/should. when the legs start to move away from the body they start to "square out". I don't know if anything can be done about it, like I said I've seen it alot, its just a shame to have some very nice lines distort like that

Thank you for the feedback Grimjerk, and very nice toon render! I will check those lines in the back of the top and see if I can do anything with them. I knew they were there, but didn't think they were an outstanding problem. As for shorts pulling strangely on legs as you pointed out. Well, is sort of normal that they would do that. Even though its not exactly what you would want the shorts to do, the clothing is doing exactly what is supposed to do. This is one of the reasons that Poser is not a perfect technology. Also, I must add while I am on the subject, that the top pulls strangley on the back during chest bend poses for the exact reason as stated above. The top is doing exactly what it should do, but in this case it gives an unwanted effect. thank you marty

Nice to have Sixus1 on the team now. I've dabbled in anime-fying Behemoth, it's a bit of work. ^^ Don't forget the sharp clean lines on CWL and RENDERING when you make 'im. Grimjerk, what toon-rendering is that? Sketch Designer? Be interested in the settings for it. Nice to be on thread #5! LOL. I agree with that idea of Riddokun's, need a more... personal website for where we seem to be headed. ^^ BTW: Nice website there, insomnia. Nice zippers. Now if they work like real zippers, I see some very cool things happening in the future. ;)

Also, I have made an adjustment to the uvmap for the shorts. The back of the shorts backwards on the uvmap so that any texture put over them would be reversed. I have fixed this.

Oh darn! I still havn't tried it yet! I will DEFINATLY try it after school! I am sure i havn't got any homework to stop me! And it's my Birthday this Saturday! I'll be 14!

Oh,HAPPY BIRTHDAY SenshiTaurus! 14,MAN! You make me feel old,my son is 15!...lol The3dZone

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Saturday... the 14... ...Happy (future) Birthday SenshiTaurus!

LOL, ok that was a funny movie, been years since I've seen it. Yggdrasil: as far as a sketch preset goes... it's not. I just started working with toon renders last night and have not figured out the sketch presets yet. thats the standard poser toon shading w/line mode, about an hour of going through all my light sets to get the highlights I wanted and the rest is all post work. Marty: I figured that would be the issue with the shorts, but it never hurts to ask, you never know if theres a solution or not. As far as the mesh/conforming goes summerwear seems to be working out great, no poke through that I could force and the only real problems I saw were in some fairly extreme sitting poses that the animedoll can't take anyways, and its hard to tell if its the doll or the cloth having problems so I think your good to go in that area. I had to pull out the magnets last night and conform it to the catsuit. I'll have to post the pic I did lastnight of the new cloths with my "white tiger" texture conversion on the catsuit. Grim

Happy 14th Senshi! Thank you for the testing Grimjerk! Testers: I will be submitting this tomorrow, so I would like to get some more feed back today from testers. As for all products, it is okay if you can't get around to testing a product. I send several testers the betas with hopes that I can get at least three evaluations. If you get a beta and don't have time to test it, don't stress! Consider the beta's a gift for testing other products. But keep in mind that I usually submit after two days of testing, so if you reply later than that, it might be too late. Also, I pointed this out before, but I will again...Caly pointed out that she is using a MAC. She said she was having trouble loading my textures because the library and file names I was using was too long while testing my last package. I am wondering now how long is too long for MAC users. If I could get some feedback on that I would appriciate it. As for Real Zippers opening and closing.....I don't know, hehehehe. I might not be that good yet, hehehe, and it would push up the price of the item. These items that I am making right now are economy packages - they are very inexpensive. marty

Here is a picture of what I am using to base my next product from. You can see why I need a zipper. I will making the chains also. Both the chains and zipper will be a first time for me in. Chains may be a problem if they are a part of confirming clothing (such as the skirt) and cross joint zones. You can expect some distortions if so. I am going to try to simulate those seams in the swimsuit and use a stategy that makes it easy to apply textures at the same time.

if I were you,I'd make a belt figure with the chains on it and save the headache to come later. the3dzone

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Thats a good idea, but I will still have grouping in the belt to deal with. I like the idea of a seperate belt though.

Summer Time Girls with their Summer Wear Clothes
Your clothes are tested and magnet-approved by Sailor Mercury, herself.

Would you consider making the "Cc_map001" on the shoes a material pose for the rest of the suit as well? It's nice when the MAT poses work for the different suit pieces, no matter which one you click on. ^_^ That's a bonus to me.

Thank you Yggdrasil. ThreeDee already has an matching texture almost ready to go. It might not come with the package though. marty

Yes it will most likely be a freebie :0) I know how you guys like those freebies...lol TheThreeDeeZone(LOL insomnia)

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Hi everyone, I'm back on line. I just got my machine back from the fixer : my Poser HD was locked up (Urgh...) but it's all back now and with no noticeable loss in data so far (yeepee !). I have a little tweaking to do on it for tonight, but I'll resume betatesting tomorrow. Boy, it's amazing how much you guys and gals can type in 36 hours ! Marty : very "nice" site !

welcome back compiler :0)

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Hello! I'm just awake now......from a splitting headache......which resulted in me being sick in the bathroom......which resulted in me getting yet another headache.....and i felt like c**p, but now i'm awake I feel nice and pretty.....i think I might just test the product!

Congrads to me!!!! AnimeDoll Stringi Bikini is on the first page of "whats hot!

congrats! :0)

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Doesn't anyine feel sorry for me?

Also, here is a picture of Kylie Minogue from 'Spinning Around'! The hair is (beleive it or not) the Poser 4 conforming curls......i think they're cool on anime doll...

Special Effects done in PaintShop Pro 7.

P.S WOuldn't it be cool if supastars like Kylie actually searched for their names in google for fanart and stuff and actually gave out comments and ratings?

I think some of them do. You just don't know it. ^_^

hey our compiler is back.. ready to get tormented by my zillion questions ? glad your hd had no loss...

Like the piccie? I used my new anime face in it, like in my Beach Vollyball one......i have officially fell in love with the face.....should I put it as a free download?

Sure you can never have enough characters :) I released my Assassin face to the freebie zone the other day, I forgot to mention, glad Grimjerk found it and likes it :)

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check over at his site for screen shots it looks awesome! you might need to join to see the topics in the forum there I forget, but it's free and easy etc. but it's just what we ordered :)

Here is a picture of alot of great looking shoes and boots that I personally would LOVE to see made for anime doll or victoria by insomniaworks, or any other modeller browsing thru here.

The3dZone :0)

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I love the silver sandal/boots!

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I like the red shoes secoudn from right, if anyone's seen onepiece, nami wares thouse shoes!

ThreeDee, very good sugestion on the boots. I am considering them for V3.

We all understand Marty, and we know that if that is what you have to do, we are for it, right? I'm still in disbeleif that anime doll is losing intrest...to me, it's the only reason why I got Poser 4 in the first place, just so i could get that.... If only there was a way to save her.......

I understand how you feel Marty. As for me, I'll probably continue working with AnimeDoll as much as with the Mil figures. BTW : will you finally release the plane you were working on, or is it all right for me to resume work on my Kameri Fighter ?

Compiler: Please finish your plane and get it out, don't wait for me. My plane is less than half way built. I am in no hurry right now to finish it. Senshi: I think she will make a come back when anime boy comes out. I just can't wait until then.

Well, While I'm really sad that your possibly giving up on the anime doll,I understand that buisness is buisness,and you've gotta do what you've gotta do. I think it would also be in your best interest as a merchant to expand your creativity to more than one poser figure. I intend to keep working on things for her myself,I still have a few ideas for her that I can't let go of. But don't be surprised if you see a bunch of v2/v3 stuff come first for a while atleast. The3dZone

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I am not sure what I am going to do yet. This slip today in my merchant status was unexpected expecially after releasing an item thats on the first page of "Whats Hot".

Good news for this morning is SummerWearOne has just been released. I have sent final copies to all testers. Really like your picture Grimjerk, I am tempeted to use it as a thumb.

I mean it was just submitted.....not released.

well anyway aside from animedoll, there is maya dool who may need a better merchant support so far, she is free and still young character, and most things would be compatible but first try to aim directly at the "non anime" doll market just to have a try... what do you think about it ? besides that i saw strange things in Adoll marketplace, i mean things that i would rather have expected in freebies (not mentionning your work of course) and maybe that is this habit/behavior that turned down many potential customers... anyway it is sad; it may be temporary (i hope so for the character itself) but anyway if you LIVe from your poser work, as far as you cncerned, it is irrelevant that it is temporary or not, you have to earn a living meanwhile :)

I am sorry for being gloomy this morning. I am thinking that if I release one real hot seller, it could support my work on animedoll. How many of you have heard of my "G3 genital for V3". It is a product that I have tried to distance my self from. I made this product to enter the market place because I knew that it would be a strong top seller. I have been considering making a new "G4" or "Ultimate G" to regain my standings in the top selling merchants. marty

You could make the animedoll a bit more realistic, like pubic hair and things......darn i can't think of anything.... Are there any programs to make 3D objects EASIER than Rhino? I just can't use it!

SenshiTaurus :practice makes perfect :0) insomnia: i think the new g would be a great idea after all sex sells in any market,sad but true. the3dzone

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senshi taurus, i did try to make some :) may you saw one of my picture here (though you cnanot see the countless draft renders in my hd though :) i mean, pubic hair :) NOW for realistic, please dont bring the topic, i am still upset about maya since he made us believe he had FINALLY a genital fix (he acknowleged it was flawy since start of maya/animedoll) nearly ready, and then nver heard news from it in last 2 months at least !!!! tried to do a dirty magnet myself... a bit bugged but it goes well in cartoon mode :) made once in the forum athread about flaws and needed improvement for anime/mayadoll family since their birth and that NOONE ever bothered to support both of them enough to do so far. most of this thread's content is still viable/true nowadays :( insomnia: well whenever it is about genitals and v3 it is assured to sals well, so if poser is your living and wages, don't hesitate for us, get as much money as you can to support yourself :) ps: hope you ddi not get offended with my IM because it was not my intent; i am just "like that" :)

Maybe I should make pubic hair for AnimeDoll, uh? I could model it like animedoll's hair on her head. I could make heartshapes, etc. Wouldn't take long to make and its sure to boost sales. Good sugestion Senshi and Riddokun! This product could be produced in less than a week and may save the farm!

Are there any good tenticle monsters out there? Give me sugestions on what you would like a animedoll pubic hair to be like.

Marty, Before you get to far on that, some one released a pubic hair prop for Mayadoll in the freebies section. Just want to make sure you know, that might reduce the saleability of an RMP product. Also, I had this big post I made earlier that got dumped by the system. I'm in agreement with those that think this forum needs to be moved else where, its not the first time that happened to me. Any how to restate part of what I tried to post before I had to leave for work: Marty, I think we all understand the finacial aspect of what your your doing, this isn't a hobby for all of us. As far as business goes, you need to do what ever it take to keep your self in business. While it sucks to lose the support for MD/AD it is more then understandable. :) I then went on (only half jokingly) to offer to take your meshes and do the MD/AD conversions on them, I've gotten to be pretty good with a set of magnets and have done quite a few MD conversion. I'll post some pics if anyone is interested in seeing my converted stuff. I have a few that have come out quite well. As far as my pic goes, feel free to use it for what ever you want! Grim

I guess the reason AD is slowing down in sales must be the imminent release of G.I.R.L. over at DAZ..... :] Fish

and don't forget the release of the new koshini,kiki and krystal is still quite new.people go crazy when that much cuteness is released at one time...lol the3dzone

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That and no offence to Mr Maya, he doesn't seem to be promoting his own product much. It was totaly cool that he made MD free but its not like most people know its there, word of mouth is not the worlds best marketing strategy. I have a suggestion or two for you and your crew Marty. You might want to try throwing out a texture pack, or even a mesh package to some of the other vendors like 3dna, poser pro or 3d commune, while these venues are not as high traffic there are some advantages. Since they aren't as prolific, your products won't get buried as fast, so they stay visible longer, if you pop out a texture package that points back to the main product here on RMP... viola, more visibility. Along with this, it would probrably be helpfull to have a web site that you can link to. That way you can show off your products the way you want to and point back to your product here. The Japanese poser sites are also a great place to show off some of your stuff, thats where I originaly stumbled across studio Maya, I was catching up on the gallery he has there and found his link to StudioMaya, I checked it out and bookmarked it for the hair. If you can get a listing on his site, or possibly get involved with some of the "fairs" as they are refered to, that might be a way to get some additional visibility. Thats the one main problem I see with RMP, theres so much stuff coming in at times that some thing you saw a week ago gets totaly buried. I tried some searches the other day in the marketplace and the freebies section and the results only pulled up roughly half of the item I was looking for and a bunch of products that didn't even relate to my search. Just some suggestions, hope I didn't offend :) Grim

hmm another suggestion to is to make a website for you and your team to promote and display your own stuff... anyway grimjerk we were talking about AD pubic hair, not MD (most v2 pubic hairs can work n her wih very little trick) i made at least one "public" picture with my pubic hairs so far, in my gallery (Sunbath). and yes, pubic hairs had to be "solid" like animedoll hair, of course, and would someone make it, it should get some morphs for common pubic hair shapes such as bushy, trimed, natural and so on. anyway while a genital morph is a really hard job and such, a solid hairpube prop wouldbe hard to sale on itself unless part of a bigger package, it is more suitable as a freebie i guess... yes the upcoming of G.I.R.L. may have an incidence, as many turned on animedoll because lacking of traditionnal european sexy comic girl such as G.I.R.L. (damn acronym, gimme her name ! :) once they leave, there is FAR LESS pure anime addicts out there (but there are), and yes Maya is not promoting well his own products if you ask me, while they all are good (both the free and rmp ones). I guess that for a FREE character as Mayadoll, it has to be assimilated by her communauty of fans (if any) and it is us who have to support her as we can. I cannot model myself (lack time and software to learn) and barely learned to drawn some textures so far, but i would humbly say that i made my best so far to promote both dolls. in fact i only use her (and posette caracters). Do not have vickies or mikes on my hard drive. The only reason for which i would buy them (would i do it) is because of abundant good freebies (hairs, clothes) for the daz products, and for Yamato's mods of them only. but on my actual instal of poser 4, all you can see is anime ormayadoll everywhere :) think of it as a challenge. By forcing oneself to use a young, unperfect character, you quickly see its shortcomings and identify what improvement it needs...

Grimjerk i cannot find the freebie you mentionned. can you point me to it please ? anyway here is a sample of my tries :) (lame and quick but it works)

As for pubic hair, it would be a very inexpensive item anyway and wouldn't save the store. It was something to think about. Although, me not knowing of the free product's existance tells you something about me. I don't spend very much time exploring and playing, because I am so busy working on new stuff. To devote so much time to devolement means I don't really know whats is all out there and know the market very well at all. I am still very much in indecision about what to do. As for making this public, in forum, I have done it so some good may come of it. I have been discussing these issues for some time now with other merchants as well as my team here. It was probably not the right thing to do, talking in public forum that is, but I thought I would rather do this than keep those who work closeley with me in the dark. Also, Grimjerk, if this forum wasn't public, you wouldn't be here talking to us. I am interested in talking to you about converted stuff by the way Grimjerk. I have been trying, although unsuccessful, to do what I would consider a good MarketPlaceQuality conversion. I am hard to please and I don't like my own conversions. I interested in making my products work on other characters rather than just AD/MD, but I keep comming back to the same conclusion that it might be easier and better to remodel the clothing for the new character. Thats not bad hair Riddokun, or at least no worse than my first attempts this afternoon. marty

My approach was to make several sets of pubes like riddikon has posted with different shapes. I was going to attempt shapes such as a heart shape also. I might just add it to my genital morph package to and re-release it.

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I have my own website I have a free section ,2 galleries and store a adverising page that both mine and insomniaworks products are in with price listed by each item,and links to each store item here. I belong to the rosity webring,rendervisions webring and advertise with banner exchanges on alot of sites. it usually gets between 2,000 and 4,000 hits a day according to my stats page. I would like for it to become a much bigger site with a forum and chat and such,but my hosting company tries to kill me with bandwidth prices. The3dZone

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Marty, I think we had a miscommunication, I wasn't trying to say that the forum shouldn't be public, but that maybe a better forum system could be found else where, that doesn't seem to be a glitchy as this one. I have never had problems posting to a forum like I do to this one (meaning RMP, not specifically to these threads). I have to type these out in notepad or some such, or do a copy right before I post because half the time I try to post here it kicks me out to the main forum menu and I lose all of my typing :(. I try to be carefull with the way I phrase things, its soooo easy to have a misunderstanding, or offend some one when your trying to "talk" in a forum, I don't always succeed. I never ever meant to make it private, it to much fun talking to the other MD/AD enthusiasts! Oh and sorry, the prop I was talking about wasn't a freebie, I have so many props and what not I lose track (25 gig runtime directory, thats after I removed all the posette stuff). It was part of a MD package called Mimi. http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=26253 Also, did you see the texure package that serpentis put out for your new Bikini? It looks good, priced decent to. It might help drive sales for the Bikini. http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=28110

Here is one of the conversions I did, its a BATLab RMP piece for vicky3, Its one of my better conversions. I was extremly pleased with this one, I actualy got the hips and buttocks to conform right. I left the boots a little large on purpose, I was working on a freebie catsuit at the time and I wanted the boots to fit over the catsuit, I ran in to some problems and shelved the catsuit (you had announced yours at that time, and I said "woot, I'll just buy that when it comes out"). I'm still working on the bra portion of it, I got ditracted by the catsuit and have been having to much fun with it. Sorry for the picture size. I have also converted ISOPs maid dress for V3 and also his School Girl outfit for TentenJ. For the Sailor Suit, I converted the shoes/socks from BATLabs Cangal suit for TentenJ. Oddly enough I find that the TentenJ stuff is almost the easiest to convert. I Have also done or am working on some other things. I did an over the knee boot from another one of BATS outfits and attached a stocking top to it,and one of his Kawa outfits Grim

The other outfits

We REALLY need to find a better forum system than this piece of crap. I think we should go over to a free forum site. I lost everything I just typed. Forgot my #1 rule for posting stuff in here... select all/copy...

Ok, round 2! This time I'll copy it before I post it. Now... what did I say... I wish you the best of luck in whatever decision you make, but I feel that I should bring about a point that you may have not considered. Have you thought about dual-supporting items? What I mean by that is make an item that fits both the Dolls and the Vickys. With Grimjerk's obvious ability to make things fit, and the products you release, I think there's a definite marketing potential not being used here. I haven't seen anything out there that fits itself over more than one figure type. Or at least, over our ever-popular Doll/Vicky figures. What I mean is something like this... since it's staring at me in the face. Nice fits, Grimjerk. The Catherine dress. Build it, make it fit one figure, make it fit another figure, put the full body morph in that changes it, market it. Testing of something like that would be through the roof, but I think there's huge potential there that no one else seems to be doing (probably for good reason, but I haven't seen anyone mention anything like this before). Of course, the market being as it is, you'd fit it first to the Vicky crowd and have the morph fit it to the Dolls. Doing it the other way around, while more preferred for us would not be a good marketing strategy. Also, they should be dual-faced ads and thumbnails. Showing both fits or whatever. You'll want to play to that potential. Getting both sides to look at the product will gather more clicks. More clicks becomes more sales. I've been noticing a decline in the viewing of anime-type pictures in the galleries for the past few months. Before 2004, the pictures were getting hit in the high 500s or so. Now they're getting hit in the 100s. I have also received some IM's (I save them all, except the "so-and-so received your message" ones) saying that while the person doesn't watch/care much for anime, they like the picture.. or someone they were browsing with liked the picture. That tells me that there is not that much interest in the anime artform here on Renderosity. But there is some, obviously. I'd support you in whatever decision you make, marty. Whether you continue to work with us on the Doll or move to something else entirely or do both (much more prefer the latter). But, it's early... what I said probably doesn't make too much sense. Just something I was thinking of. Oh... and did I mention that we should take this forum off of Renderosity's PoC forum? ...selecting all... copying... hitting the button again.

Oh yeah... let me be the first to officially say it. Happy Birthday SenshiTaurus!

Yay! You remember! Anyway, i was thinking about what he said, and it's true. BatLab did a similar thing, except it was seperate clothes for both models, but full body morphs would work also. Also, if you didn't want to concentrate on anime/maya doll so much, you could use your modeling skills to create scenery props for poser, like forests (i'd need that for RPG World anime), towns, cities, inside buildings... Since i'm absolutly no good at modeling, the only way I could help is texturing.....and since i'm bourd, if ya want a texture, just post here and i'll see if i can do one to past the time.....now i just gotta update my site....

Yeah, I've seen the multiple model thing going alot. While a quick fix, I think we need to revolutionize the industry. Plus that's just double the resources for the same thing. I came up with this little plan while I was fitting some glasses I had downloaded to AnimeDoll's head (that was a lot of fun, even went through and cel-shaded them while I was at it). It came to full fruition after seeing Grimjerk's work. You could do dual models if that's what it comes to I guess, but I think we can get this thing off the ground and multi-purpose your stuff for the "masses".

Boy I'm just full of insight this morning. Another thing that may be the cause of the slump in sales across the board is because people are gearing up for the summer. Prom is around the corner, summer vacations and time off are being finalized, moving expenses for all those summer movers are making plans. Lots of savings usually go on around this time of year so that they can spend alot later on in the year. I'm no expert or anything even close on the subject of marketing and trends, but I'm just basing what I've observed in my past 10 years working in retail that spring is not a very big spending season. It happened every single year I've worked in retail, so I'm thinking there's probably a trend here. Between February and June, there's very little spending on entertainment purposes (my entire retail background is entertainment in video rental, video games and computers). The only thing entertainment-wise (and that's what this is) that I see real spending on is the movies, and that's really only around April/May/June. But... like I said... I'm not an expert or anything close, just an observer.

Very cool work Grimjerk. I have made magnet sets to convert V3 to V2 and V2 to MGPT, but I have never succeeded in making a set to convert from V2 to MD. The problematic part was the crotch and butoocks area which are very different, and difficult to tweak with magnets. Will you share your technique with us (either the magnets or the finished items) ? Marty : I know you received my IM after you submitted the pakage to the RMP, but you can include my textures in it if you think they'll help. They're all yours. Best wishes.

Heya! Just to let you know i updated my website for my birthday, which includes a few graphic changes (which will last for a few days then go back to normal) and also now you can download my poser freebies on my site also! I also did some changes to the links...... Like i said before, if anyone wants me to make any textures for something, just let me know... If it's what i'm looking for (like a freebie texture package or something) then i might take it up.....^_^

grimjerk i really like the school girl it is clear that converting some nice free/commeercial v2 clothes to mayadoll would be appreciated ! do you convert it all by yourself or you at least use either the tailor or markdc's cloth converter as a bulk base, then tweak it yourself ?

oh and yes, i agree on the fact THIS board system is really uneasy to deal with :( any free hosting with sql capability and a phpbb system would just fit the work !

I have a very very very very BIG question. I just checked my e-mail to find out that someone has bought me the minidress that Insomniawork's made. Who bought it for me? I am very suprised, and i'm happy that someone actually did that! It was very unexpected! Who bought me it? And why? Was it because it's my b-day?

I will set up a BBS for us on my webspace I have several set up there already for various games I play etc. I actually program websites for a living lol mostly for the insurance e-commerce sector though. but I'll set a BBS up and maybe a few pages. stay tuned.

And here is a good tenticle monster! http://www.sixus1.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=931

Thank god for cut and paste on this one, lets try again! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SENSHI :) One note I forgot to put in. I didn't convert the stockings on the Cathrine Dress, I just used the stockings/Gaterbelt from MD Sexy Lingerie. I had already gone in and split the pieces up and remapped the stockings to take the textures that Bluebeard made for spanki's V3 stocking and didn't want to do the work again. I don't really have any working magnet sets. there seems to be some big inconsistancies when it comes to converting clothes to fit MD and any sets thay I have tried to make only work on that one piece. I have a couple basic magnet sets that I use, one for the short boots that I posted earlier and a small set that makes aome minor shape changes to the hips and thighs. For the most part every figure is done from scratch. One of the things that I have figured out, a morph set really won't work, if nothing else the hip/buttock is way to different. I beat my head against that wall for a long time till I finally gave up. I was so happy when BAT released some updates to his figures to include MD and found that he had seperate OBJs for MD. What I do for the most part is this: I scale the body of the figure, for a V3 to MD conversion its roughly 90%, that tends to put the crotch (if there is one) in the correct place (almost all of this is done on conformed btw). I tweak the individual X Y Z positions on the body and individual body parts till I'm as close as I can get to a fit, its usually not very close at this point (I think this is where I lose the ability to use a magnet set, this tweeking spot). I Then apply magnets to the areas that don't have symetrical problems, but are well hidden by MD mesh. I then export the mesh to OBJ selecting all of the optoions except morph target. This is where I get a little wierd I guess, and also another reason I can't use mag set. I import the figure (unchecking every thing and checking weld) and I check to see if the model will work in the cloth room (most don't for this purpose, clothing objects with lots of trim, like marty's cat suit or almost anything BAT does need to have portions of it constrained IE the trim, and you don't want to constrain anything at this point). Assuming the OBJ is clothroom compatible I then scale the obj down just enough for a lot of it to be just barely hidden by MD mesh and re export/import (you have to do this or you end up losing alot of your cloth work, you have to export/import after every change). Set up Key frame on frames 1 and 20, on frame one scale MD down so that she no longer connects to the obj mesh, you may have to scale individual body parts, not the entire figure. after clothifying the obj and setting collision depth and the other setting at the top to .25 and cloth density to .0001 run the simultion. If things work out you'll have a fairly well fitting obj. Export/Import. At this point whether the obj worked in cloth room or not, is where I do most of my mag work. For some reason on MD it works better to do mag work here. I found it easier to get the hip/buttock/back to work right if I work on the whole model as an OBJ then on individual body parts on a conformed figure, But this is the other reason I don't have working magnet sets. Whew! Some time I can do a figure in an evening, some times... I have to say tho... I learned alot about magnets doing this. Oh, I usualy do thigh/leg/breast work on the cr2 figure, not the obj, there is a python script in the freebies section that does a symetrical magnet clone that helps ALOT!

As far as sharing goes, I would love to. I would wish this kind of work on anyone! All the meshes have to be RTE/PCF encoded, which unfortunatly means that any of my older bat conversion won't work if you don't have the files, and most aren't distributed anymore. I highly suggest that you head out to Yamato's site (poser penthouse) and down load the files from the fair thats going on, some of the clothes I converted are re-availble there for a short time (like ISOPs sailor suit and BATs cangal outfits I used for the sailor suit conversion). Grim

Could someone answer my question? ^^ Who bought me the anime doll MiniSkirt? And why? Someone has bought me the minidress and i would like to know who. ^^

Ugg No way to edit posts here, Eratta number one in my long conversion post: (almost all of this is done on conformed btw). should read almost all of this is done UN conformed. Riddokun, I do it all by hand unless i get lucky and the cloth room can help me out. Lets just say that the clothes converter doesn't work with MD/AD at all and leave it at that (bites tongue till it bleeds).

SenshiTaurus : I bought you the dress, and made one more sell for Marty, so that's 2 happy people in one move. I chose this item because it was the one in your wishlist I expected your parents would be the least upset on... ;) (you're young enough to be my son after all...) I don't understand why Renderosity doesn't allow you to make a Birthday card when you buy an item for someone... Happy Birthday SenshiTaurus.

THANK YOU COMPILER! And hey, i showed my mum all the stuff on my whishlist, and she doesn't mind. She understands i'll need some things, like the underware and all that, and my dad has to be there when i buy stuff like Bat's Witch thingie, and he either just doesn't mind or makes some wise crack..... Anyway, THANK YOU COMPILER!

You're welcome. ;)

Wow! So much talk in the last 12 hours. Happy birthday Senshi!!! Thank you compiler!!! I don't know what IM you are refering to. On the subject of conversions, I can do a conversion from AD to V3 with Magnets that I have saved to do most of the work. My first magnets rescales the body and then the rest of the magenets moves things around. My biggest problem is breasts. I tried a conversion on my catsuit and the breasts were a big problem as well as the buttocks being so different. At this point I always come to the same conclusion that it would be better to rebuild the mesh since I am the modeler. I am going to look at one of BatLabs latest products and see how he approaches the conversions. What I am afraid of is what comes after the conversions. What about V3 body morphs.....this is what drives me crazy. Everyone expects all the morphs or at least some of them. I think I could spend a week just adding body morphs. I read your method description Grimjerk with much interest. You didn't say, but I understand you are using P5 for your conversion. I know of the method you are speeking of but I never really tested it since I am not comfortable with P5 as a building environment. You say the trims give you trouble, and you can't do my clothing this way or you can? I am not aware of magnet mirror scripts, I am in the habit of saving magnets and reloading them and changing the paramerters to make them a mirror. If you could post any mirror tools links to this forum, I would really appriciate it. Also....I know that many of you have posted addons for my products in the Free Stuff. I have tried to make links to these free products from my promopages. For some reason, I can not find the source of the downloads. Please post the links of FreeStuff in this forum that you would like to see on my promo pages. I am overjoyed to see that serpentis has put out a texture package for my item. I am going to write him/or her a thank you letter. My sales looked good over the last 12 hours also, I checked my computer this morning and there were about 9 sales. Thats good, its been a long time but these spurts usually come with the end/beginning of the month. After much thought, I am still working on animedoll for the time being. I think that all that is keeping my sales low is the fact that I need to convert over many charactors. I hate all the extra work. Its hard enough to make it work with one charactor well. Its twice as much work at least making it fit another charactor, and so much harder with all the V3 morphs that are expected. Frankly I don't have the patience to look at the same project for so long, I get bored with it and begin to hate working on it. I am interested in help on this subject, Grimjerk. Maybe a team effort, I need a good morpher to help since I am far from the best. Are you any good at using any other morphing software Grim? as where these forum threads are, I think they are going to be here for a long time. Please everyone remember, before you click "post reply" always select everything you just typed copy it to your clip board. This way, if its lost its a matter of pasting it in again. Messages that are large tend to be lost because of the time they take to write them. Here is another tip, if you type something for about 15 minutes or so, open up another browser window and go to the rosity main page, this will reset things and your reply will go thru. This is what I will have to do before I click "Post Reply" on this message because of the time it took me to write it. marty

Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday dear senshi Happy birthday to you If there is anything in my store that you don't have and you want Senshi, tell me what it is. In other words, just tell me what you don't have, lol. marty

Here is the swimsuit that I began building so far. I spent a much longer time on this stage of this swimsuit doing experimention. I am trying to get more realistic wrinkles and this my be my best work yet. But its still not real looking as I want it to be, but I have discovered something about adding wrinkles that I hadn't discovered until now. The method is sort of making the using an undesirable side effect of Rhino to my advantage. With practice, I feel I will get much better at it. marty

Your offering me one of your products Insomniaworks? No! I couldn't do that! I mean, i've already received on of your products for free (from my POV, but not from Compiler's POV) and i don't think i should take any more. Thanks for the offer anyway. Gosh! You guys are being so nice to me! Anyway Insomnia, i think i should point you to the gallery. Someone has made a Super Sailor Scout expansion for you Sailor Scout set (might be released as freebie if enough people persuade him) so I suggest IMing him. I think his name is CiaoBarra or something......

hmm btw, regarding helping your sales, what would help them most between those two: - free addon for a commercialitem of yours or - small price commercial addon (with better quality) for a product of yours ? i ask that because i am a bit in lack of insporation and courage for my own brand projects by now, and also i wanted to suppot mayadoll (and, incidentally) animedoll but with more eas for me, basing myself on someone' else work, and i intended to make a few texture packages for now "non free" clothes (as i already did some for the free ones so far) i feel a bit uneasy at this (for variosu reason, the one relevent here would be that i am still a lame newbie texturer at all...) and so am unsure of the viability/quality of the things i could do, no matter how much time and care i put inside it. if interested or if willing to give me advices and tips, feel free...

Correction: Ciaomaro......that's his name.....

Senshi, you desirve anything you want from my store anyway because you are a tester. Just tell me what you don't have and want. Also Senshi, try transfering some of your thigh movement from the legs to your buttocks. This will make smooth out those rough edges in the skirt between her legs.

Marty, The python script was not easy to track down, the search engine dosen't bring it up if you use python as a search item. if you use "clone" it does. the creators website is http://poserpython.com/ScriptsPage.html, it can be downloaded from there as well. As far as your catsuit goes, I haven't actualy tried it in the cloth room yet, but from experience I don't think it will work. The problem is, the seams that you have in there for the stocking top, abdomen, arms etc.. are not "part of the mesh" is the best way I can describe it. If I try to put it in the cloth room, they will break and fall. You need to be able to constrain them for it to work and when your trying to "grow" a piece of cloth, you just can't do that, and if your trying to do a skirt that has a hem in the mesh... well you can't constrain them either or the skirt won't move right. I'll throw your Catsuit in the chamber later and see what happens, I'll post a pick of what it does. However, on my way how from work last night I think I came up with a new process that will at least help me with a sweet pair of jeans I'm trying to convert. If it works I'll update you with the process. Other morph programs... I have used the tailor with some success and just bought 1.5. There was another application that I was looking at the other night (I can't remember the name) that looked like it had some promise, but I have been burned for the cost off several utilities lately (they just don't seem to do what they were advertised to do) that I have been very hesitant to pop out another 60 bucks or more... if you know what I mean. Is there a morph package you can recomend?

Oh BTW, that looks like a nice start on the swim suit

Marty : I was referring to the IM I sent you yesterday about the SummerWear outfit. R'osity e-bot told me you got it, but you may have discarded it among the huge fan mail you receive. I'm sending it again to you. As for the freestuff I made : Here is the texture for the Gymsuit : http://compiler.free.fr/GymFrance.zip And here is the wetsuit texture for the catsuit http://compiler.free.fr/Wetsuit_for_IW_catsuit.zip And I agree : that swimsuit is really looking good !

Nice picture. Like the hair, and the logo on the umbrella is a most excellent touch. Very cool.

I forgot to copy and paste my self, damn!!! I havn't done that in a long time. Well here goes the message again.... ______________________________________ Above is the swimsuit part of the ensemble so far. I am still working on it so don't be too hard on me. Compiler, love your renders. Great use of gloss. Also, It would be better if you sent me those textures after you have set them up in folders and made MAT poses for them. I will be updating all my promo pages as I always do with release of the SummerWearOne Package and will put the links to the free products. Grimjerk, the reason I was asking is if you find that morphing is your forte, you will want an editor that lets your move vertices one by one if you choose as well as groups. Although, I havn't fully tested it yet, I feel that Clothes Converter would allow you do to this at a very reasonable price. I don't feel it is a solve all product as it is advertised, but it does have some dandy tools.

Are you sure Insomniworks? Fine then you tempted me enough! ^_^ The only ones i don't have is the minidress textures and the bondage fairy kit. I don't want the harness 'cause i'm not interested in that stuff.... BTW, what happened to that little hair progect with the chun-li like hair pictured in your harness thumbnail?

No problem Marty. I thought you might want to include these textures in your MP package, that's why I used those silly names with less than 8 letters. If you'd rather have me put it in the freestuff, no prob. I'll make a package tomorrow, with more understandable names. I'll also include a smart magnet to move the string at the top of the bikini, so that it behaves better when posed. The wetsuit looks really awesome ! Can't wait to see it finished !

ok, i finally finished reading all i missed! whew! HAPPY BIRTHDAY SENSHI!!!!!!!! great start on that outfit insomnia,it looks wonderful :0) i've been reading you guy's discussion on converting clothing,and i'm gonna tell you how i would do it, and how i think it could be done by the modellers who made the items to begin with. i know i'm still a newbie at modelling ,but this is how i would convert clothing. when i model a dress or whatever in lightwave and it's finished,i have to freeze it to make it work in poser,but i always save an lwo(lightwave file)version of it in case i want to change something on it. so basiclly to convert it,i would put the dress on the new model in lightwave adjust the parts that don't fit,freeze it and save it for the new model..simple as pie :0) the3dzone

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oh, and i know you'll ask me insomnia, so yes senshi can have the minidress textures as a gift from me as well as you :0) the3dzone

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YAY! I feel loved... I feel happy... I feel annoyed because Sonic Heroes has absolutly no sound in the movies whatsoever! just bought it today But on the other hand... I feel happy...

Well... I've gone and done it now! Heh. Any old Poser freebies you guys want, I have an FTP server up and running. I don't know how long it'll last, so grab 'em while they're hot! ftp://yggdrasil.dyns.net/ I've dropped back into this crazy business again of sharing my stuff online. And I have a lot of stuff. Enjoy it while it's hot. My bandwidth sucks, so I make no apologies if it takes forever and a day to get what you want. =P

compiler wooow now i really like it even better (this current picture look qith highlights).. very nice

That FTP thing was wierd...it was like searching through someone elses computer.....i'm copying these two sailor files you have incase they are sailor type school uniforms.....they will be usefull...

senshi you'll get accustomed quickly :) it was the first way of file transfert/sharign i eever experimented at my internet starts, in 95.. and in fact, it is, for me the most reliable :)

all i keep getting is page cannot be displayed. :0(

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I had this also. I suppose we were both trying to access it at the same time. I'll let you have a go at it for the moment : here it's more than time to go to bed...

Here is the swimsuit so far. I am giving it a look over in poser checking for flaws in the geometry. You are looking at the first zipper I have ever put into a piece of clothing. marty

It looks terrific ! How is the polycount ?

Sorry about that... server died, computer rebooted. Looking to see how to get it back running again! LOL. Ok, I think it's up. Nice suit! Very nice. Like the zipper placement. That's just begging to be unzipped...

looks great!:0)

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Thank you I don't know what he poly count is but it is quite high, but not too high I feel. It no worse than catsuit for its size. I will check how low I can make the mesh and still keep enough detail, but I tend to forefit low poly count for high detail. marty

just an idea, could you put extra material zones for stripes down the sides?or would that be too much work? :0) the3dzone

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Its looking very very nice marty! I have clothes converter but so far I'm not real peased with it. at least with the auto scaling and MD. Mut yeah, I seem to have a niche with morphing clothes, at least with mags.

Hello! Today is officially NOT my birthday...... So now, on with the news! dong Insomniaworks has inputted his first ever zipper! dong Clothes looking good so far! dong Clothes Converter is beginning to lose popularity! Good day!

Attached Link: http://compiler.free.fr/SummerWear.zip

Well, I've finished packing up the add-on for the Summer Wear outfit. I cannot put it up in the freestuff for the moment since the outfit itself is not yet in the MP. For people here who already have it, you can already download the add-on pack at the link above. It contains textures, MAT poses and a magnet to help the Bra's string follow the character's moves. Since this was made on a PC, with Poser5, I would appreciate if people working on Poser4 and/or Mac would tell me if it works all right for them. As for the wetsuit, Marty, it really looks awesome. I have a soft spot for wetsuits (and I know I'm not the only one here...). My question on the polycount was about the zipper. I haven't seen any working zipper based on geometry so far, so I was curious to know if that would inflate the polycount too much.

Thank you everyone, Compiler, I had a feeling that question was based around the zipper. Yes, the zipper of course adds more poly count, but not so much to be a problem. In other words, the trade off is WELL worth while. I am very proud of this suit, and it don't look 1/4 as good with out the zipper. The zipper is not "working" - I mean it don't zip up and down - its just for show. If all goes well the wetsuit/swimsuit alone will be in testing in the next day or so. I will take a very serious look at putting a stripe material zone down the sides. Thank you 3d. select-copy marty

"select-copy" ^_^

Here it is with the side stripes inserted as The3dZone had sugested. I have left all the trim "white" so you could see where it is. This trim serves a duel purpose. It is not only for apperience, but is needed because splits in Rhino are not always perfect - especially when cutting thru fabric with wrinkles. I needed to put the trim in to hide flaws in the cuts. So it goes with out saying that these trims are not connected to the main mesh. In fact, there is not main mesh, every where there is a material zone, the geometry is split. This outfit would be impossible to convert with P5 animation tools for this reason. But, from what I can see now, I think it could be converted with magnets. The trims can be made the same colors as the rest of the materials and you will not see them if you wish. Select-Copy Marty

Hey, i'm getting better at rhino... Now i'm gonna see if i can do what i've always wanted to do: A 3D version of Dianne's mage outfit. (RPG World)

I am fitting am in the setting up phase now :)

Very cool work Marty ! Are you planning some scuba stuff to go with her ? (the pic is just a Ninja suit in the freestuff. had quite some tweaking to do, but working not bad in the end).

very nice swimsuit...

There's already some scuba stuff for Anime Doll out there. I don't know if you want to just repeat what's already been done. I think the name is KAMO. JRDCTECH at yahoo.com

yay! thanks for putting the stripes down the sides :0) the suit looks just wonderful! i'll have to do an add on for this suit for sure(you know how i love a wetsuit!) the3dzone :0)

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daz has scuba stuff that could be used also,plus baumgarten(sp?)had some for free at one time i know. besides i don't think the price could stay low if he added much more than the suit to the package. but,marty this is just the suit to add that nice fin to that you built wayyyyyy back in thread # 1 :0) the3dzone

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I've been on the lurk again...lol here are some outfits that I'd like to see made for Anime/Mayadoll or the Vickies. :0)

The3dZone

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I would like to see a set of anime like items, like guns, wands, buildings, locations, forests, and stuff....can anyone do those? I mean, how can you create an anime in poser withought poser places....and i really need a forest....really.....cries

Attached Link: http://secure.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=1602

this is the best forest scene i've ever used i plan to build some surroundings for the anime doll i'm starting with a bedroom,every girl needs her own room :0) the3dzone

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Yeah! Use the bedrooms from Sailor Moon, they are the best typical girl bedroom ever..... And you could even do Rei's room!

unless you have pics,i have no idea what you mean i have never seen any of the anime shows you guys talk about. the3dzone

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I did a diving scene the other day using some of the free animedoll stuff including compilers wetsuit texture. go check it out in my gallery, entitled 'Mermaid'

3dzone: i like the black outfit (lower left corner) as for any "example"/sample of typical anime girl interior bedroom i can browse in my video collection and try to grab you a few shots...

that would be great riddokun,i've looked thru online galleries but don't find any that show rooms. (i'm kinda partial to the white tux myself, but i like them all :0)) the3dzone

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Great images compiler! Happy belated b-day, Senshi. :) The zipper looks great! Will there be open zipper morphs? :) Koshini & Company has a large following... ever consider supporting 'em as well? Especially the new older looking Krystal. A product for both her and AD wouldn't be that far off.

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Thankies! Insomnia has already said that there will be no zipper morphs....it's just for show (unless he was being sarcastic)...

Great Pic nanoshi ! The light is just right ! Marty : your wetsuit is a real killer. I love it ! 3dzone : you seem to have an intersting library...

thanks compiler.....i think....lol :0)

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ThreeDee: If you watch Channel 44 at 6:30 in the morning, Sailor Moon is on every weekday morning. At least she was last I checked. She has had that morning spot for many years. I am going to try to get up tomorrow morning and check my self if Saior Moon is still on. Great recommendations on outfits - really - I need the ideas on for new packages. Also, I am thinking my self about that mono-fin. I would probably model a different one than I alread modeled. The last mono flipper was an exact copy from Nuku Nuku, and it looked a little too much like a seagull foot actually if you ask me. yggdrasil: If I do any swimming gear, it will be unique. Compiler: Nice work on the ninja there News: I am been working on the swimsuit today very little. I have it running and in the process of perfecting the fit and adding JCMs to correct pokethrus. This was meshed a little differently than I usually do, that is I used less polys than I usually do. You will find that this product will load up real quick. I am not sure yet if it was wise though, because it comes with compromises. The geometry looks real good with no choppy edges, but its a little more prone to pokethrus because of being less polys. I will correct all reaonable poke thrus with Joint Controlled Morphs. Also, another thing that is a change with this swimsuit is I have not put any buttock groups in the swimsuit. When you pose the thighs, the swimsuit crotch will not move or distort. This like everyting comes with a trade-off. When you move the thighs forward, a poke thru tends to appear in the rear buttock area of the suit. I have already created a Joint Controlled Morph to correct for this and it works rather well. When you move the buttocks, the suit crotch will move, so I recomend not using buttock movements or using them very little. I recomend the opposite for the mini dress where it is best posed in the bottocks rather than the thighs. I may be happy enough by tomorrow to release a beta of the swimsuit. Other news: Sales are still too slow. Way too slow. The SummerwearOne will be released by Friday and I am trying to have this swimsuit package ready to submit by Friday. I am hoping that the next two releases in the next two weeks will cause some in the publics buying habbits toward my products. My strategy now is a simple one, I am attempting to put out one product per week....thats very tuff to do, and it still may not be enough. If sales continue to be low in my store, I will begin working on V3. Many of ThreeDee's sugestions look great! select-copy marty

Oh this outfit is too fun! The sandals are very cute. :)

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Thank you Caly!!! Did you get the Final package? I can tell by the shoe MAT that you are using a the beta.

I hesitate to ask this, but I see soo many great pictures. Does anyone want to submit any promo pictures for my store, I will give you credit? I am trying to get one product done per week and I have little time to just relax and I have to be relaxed to be creative on my promos. marty

I am working on the uvmapping of the swimsuit and it looks pretty good, not going to be much problems. I have yet to add all the JCMs and clean up the files. I feel confident that I will have a beta of the Wet-Swimsuit tomorrow. I am also asking for sugestions on names for the suit. I have had a great idea, maybe the regulars here on my forum would like to get involved in a site to promote MayaX and his Animedoll along with all my products and other products for money and free. We all could contribute to the site with pictures and commentaries. I will ask management if I can run a link from Bannors to the site. marty

Marty, feel free to use the pic I submitted here. I'm working on another one along simular liens... IE that type of cell shading. Grim

Actually Grim, I can only use untouched renders or untouched toon renders for promo pictures. Although, I am tempeted to use yours because it is art, it would not be illustrative. Here is a picture of how the suit is comming, am pretty far along now. There are a few drawbacks or flaws with some of the trim near group boarders, it is still a great outfit and performs well in most poses. It will be a very inexpensive package so it is a great value. marty

... promote MayaX and animedoll ? hmm what a strange idea !!! what the heck was i doing so far ? :) count me in !

btw, what about a Mayadoll/Animedoll promoting webring ? and also to link to all the so far free ressources adn merchant's websies related to MD/AD ?

Thats looking VERY sharp Marty... OK, I'll pull out MD instead of AD and try to come up with something to submit for the merchant page, just not sure what... creativity seems to have taken a vacation this week. Hmmm... I need a better beach scene. Grim

Thank you Grim. Thank you for the response about the site riddokun, this is something that I can not do alone, by no means. This would have to be a team effort and a team should have control and ability to ftp and edit the site. We also need someone to donate some webspace. marty

I have one word about today...SATs! Now i gotta go to school! Wish me luck!

If it's promotions you need, I'm in for it. Just let me know what all to do. As for images that you need to put up to advertise, all of my images are untouched. That could be a good or bad thing. ^_^ Depending on the image I guess. And speaking of images... WOW @ ThreeDee. Good luck on the SATs, do us proud.

Someone's "typical" room... although I don't know who's. ^_^

Another room... probably a boy's room.

grimjerk: aaargh "beach".. don't mention the word :) would trigger me again... insomnia: well free web space can be cfound and with ftp access too. anyway you may not need a big thing at first, just a front end, and maybe building the "webring" linking to other'sd website who would be participating into a common line... after that maybe a forum and such. if you can afford to PAY, there sure are a few very cheap/affordable hostings with betteer capabilities... for low cost. after all if you are a merchant and may use your site too to promote yourself and the characters (free or not) of maya, it can be considered. also you seems to already have a team so far, so you do not need to make all by yourself, i guess that people would be happy to contribute making the site in any way...

A typical girl's room again. ^_^ This one seems a little safer...

^_^ Depending on the image I guess. And speaking of images... WOW @ ThreeDee........HUH? thanks for the room pics :0) The3dZone

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Your last set of pictures. ^_^

oh,duh!...lol the3dzone

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I've got a lot more (used to be TONS) pictures of anime locations if you want (need) them.

I need to know how many of the forum usuals here use V3/V2 aswell as the anime doll,so I know who to ask to do testing. The3dZone

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Does it count if we use both at the same time? ^_^

lol, are you sitting in the forum or what man?...hehe

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Ah, today was our Science SATs...i think i did well. Now, tomorrow is math.... Those pictures are FAB! From my guess i think they might come from a dating sim. The middle one would be your room (the 'boy) and the other rooms would most proberly show up if they invite you round to their house. The school uniforms in the first one look cool. They look familiar (maybe a isaw a screenshot once) but i have never played a dating sim in my life. (except for the ones at newgrounds.com.....and i only play them because their interesting, NOT because they were hentai games...DON'T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT!!! Besides, my favorite ones are Eva4 and Love Hina Dating Sim (be forkheads.tk) and they are non-hentai) Could someone make some sort of 'Anime Bedroom pack!'? And laso some sort of school uniform pack using many uniforms from various sorces (like the one in the android's room).

Double post! Can you use my piccie as a promo? If your gonna include other peoples pictures as promos, you should have a little space saying who did the promo pictures and some link to their site/renderosity page/e-mail. mine is http://homepage.ntlworld.com/christopher.jarvis2/mainpage.html P.S While working on it i realised she looked like Lenne from FFX-2 so i added Yuna's earing to bring up the Lenne in her!

I use them all AD/MD, V2/V3, etc. :) My last picture up there had no postwork except for the background I added to it, so you can use it if you wish. :)That's a Poser 4 render. I'll see if I get in the mood to do more images. :) I'll check my file dates too, make sure I use the most recent. I love those anime rooms... We definitely need more anime environment stuff.

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Woah ! I've been off to work for a day and look at all you have typed ! Sorry for being late. Living in France, I go to bed when you wake up... Marty : Your wetsuit looks very very nice and sexy ! Can't wait to play with it ! As for other topics : 1- Trading polys for morphs may not be that effective filesize-wise. Morphs do eat up RAM too. 2- As for promo pics, it's all right with me. Just tell me which outfit you'd like me to illustrate and what kind of pic (cell/realistic, Anime/Maya doll, background/no background, size, etc...) 3- As for webspace, my provider allows me to have 100 Mb of free webspace. I thinks it has ftp access since I can upload my stuff with cute FTP. Let me know if you're interested. 4- Tonight and tomorrow night we have music rehersals, but I'll be totally yours of Thursday evening for testing. Yggdrasil : These are most excellent pics, with a very decent size. I'd love to use them as background for my renders, but I wonder what the license states about copyright ? Are they available in your magic ftp cavern ? 3dZone : I use V2 and PreTeen (with young adult morphs) as my main "workhorses". I also have V3 but could not find a real improvement over V2 in what I do (I'm not into photorealistic rendering). I know several people also use regularly the Pre Teen. No I'm not talking about the sick people playing with nude kids. The MGPT has a good potential and has many morphs to make her look in the 16-25 range (see Nia in the RMP). Her polycount is very acceptable and she loads quickly. You may consider doing stuff for her, even pinup-esque. The only trouble is that when someone sees a pin-up, he finds her beautiful, but when you tell him it's the MGPT, he starts crying very loud. I usually say that the base model is the millenium cube... At SenshiTaurus : just turned 14 and already into hentai games ? Tsk Tsk Tsk. ;)

No, the pictures reside "off-site" in another hard drive. I can open that hard drive up to you if you want, but it has massive hentai content, just to warn you now. The images are from a game called "Popottan" or something like that... too busy to hunt it down officially. I also used a picture from that game series to put a picture about Chobits in Renderotica.

HEY! I'M NOT INTO HENTAI GAMES! I like dating games because they are unique. The only Dating Sims i ever played were Eva4, Love Hina sim, (both parody things) This one i can't remember, and Ganguru Girl (what DOES Ganguru mean?). I wouldn't know if the last two were hentai or not (but i would think they were) and only played them because i think dating sims are fun. I lost interest in Ganguru girl (boring, even thought the animations and graphics were nice) the other one i must admit was great. Had mild nudity, but wasn't interested in that. I was more interested in trying to get those stupid questions right. I am no fan of hentai and never will be. I am a hater of pron (and no, i'm not spelling it wrong, i said it like that on purpose) and don't know why people do it to themselves. That concludes my argument that i am NOT a hentai. If i was given a choice of playing a hentai dating sim or a non-hentai sim, i would choose the non-hentai....THERE! Wow, this post is looooooooong...... So THERE Compiler.....i'm no hentai (de ja vu).... End post.... select-copy (yes i'm actually doing that...this post is looong)

heh... I like 'em all. Hentai.. non-hentai.. the sick and the family fun. ^_^ Uploading gallery picture now...

I use V2/V3/Steph (not Petite), MD/not so much AD but I'm starting to play with toon renders now. I have Koshini and sara, but I think they are both ugly and I use Aiko once in awhile. Oh, I also use MGPT, but I keep forgetting that she is one of the PT models. I use Yamato's TentenJ (The tenten's were my favorite figure till MD came out, I even have MD with tenten's head on it) Marty, Sorry I haven't got those pics done, I've been a little distracted trying to figure something out. Hopefully I'll have something to show, if not tonight then tomorrow night. Dang work gets in the way of stuff I need to get done :(

Don't foget Cannon-chan! Cannon-chan is great! If only he would make a version with a mouth....and eyelids....and a little tail.....that wiggles when she's happy....then you can pat her head.....then glomp her......oh! Sorry, did i doze off? Cannon-chan is so Kawai! And she can transform into a battle robot with bazookas and improved vision...all cool! ^^ SO Marty, do ya like ma piccie? ^^

thankyou all for responding, i will work with the milgirl soon,i'm a v3 person myself although i can't stand the wideness of her hip area. i have another teen v3 in the works,i'm almost finished morphing her,then i'll work on the map. here she is so far

the3dzone

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well guys,don't laugh! here is my first attempt at furniture,my 45 min bed...lol not great,but what do you want for 45 mins...hehe ok,laugh if you wanna. i'll keep practicing i think :0) the3dzone

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phtt, if I tried one... yeah I don't even want to think about that

i may forget about trying to make curves and do a four posted bed...lol the3dzone

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That's a nice bed.

Yes, I can use that as part of a promo Senshi! Good luck on your testing. yggdrasil, thank for the bedroom pictures. Nice work on the bed and charactor, Tripple D', but the texture will really define the charactor and make people love it or not. I personally like something strange in a face and perfection in faces is sort of boring. Its the strangly cute face that will make a lot of sales if you ask my opinion. marty

Avril Lavigne has that strangely cute look, make it look like her.

omg! i was thinking of her when i started this one!......you really scare me sometimes man,you know it? the3dzone

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Avril is sooo pretty!

@SenshiTaurus : I was just teasing...

what's summer wear without a pool floaty? :0) i'll have it in free stuff soon.

the3dzone

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That Float is absolutely wonderful, threeDee. Yeah, avril is the bomb. Make a charactor based on her and you will get outstanding sales. How about a charactor based on that the girl who plays Dawn on Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Has anyone seen any hair that looks like Dawn's hair?

Dawn... Hubba... erm... Anyhow! Marty, heres a pic for you! My latest project is creating morphs that I can add to your clothing and to MD/AD herself. The figure on the left is the thin breast morph that comes on MD, the right is one I'm working on. When I'm done the morphs should range anywhere between the A cup morph and the busty one I have here, I know some one did breast morphs in the freebies section, but I like mine better so far and these could potentialy be included in your future packages and maybe updates on your older packages. I'm saving the magnets as I go (what a concept) so hopefully adding the morphs will be a very quick process, even with tweaking. I tried using the tailor to transfer morphs... ugg, what it did to mesh. Grim

Oh, BTW... The figure on the right is the MD/Vicki Hybrid, with the tenten head morph. My two favorite figure together in one package...YAY! DDD... The floaty looks good, now for a decent pool or beach scene. Also, hopefully when I'm done, the Morphs on the clothing will be ECM (super conforming), so twist the FBM on the doll and poof the clothing matches Marty, I just downloaded the swimsuit, the JCM's for the buttocks arn't working. If I manually tweak them they work great! but the linkage appears to be broken. Grim

Suit looks great Nia :0) it has pokethrus in the collar area also in with some poses,but they are minor. Tripple D

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grimjerk yeah i already saw this tenten/md hybrid.. for me it rocks.. they are too my fav characs.. :) bring us more of her !

compiler: yes i know about your webspade, cause i use same... it is very convenient for poser related use, even despite the "low" 100mb :) - unlimited bandwidth a month (believe me i tried :) - unlimited file size - ftp access -no popup/adds the only problem is with php and mysql. admins set the request time/delay too short; so it is barely usable for forums (we had one mounted on another "free.fr" webspace of a friend, and it was a disaster) it does not allow direct file linking too :) anyway, if you want to host a few more poser / mayadoll things too, it may be interesting to link some of our site together in a webring, don't you think ? at least on free.fr it can serve as a file sharing part of a site...

Yes, a webring of sites that interlink from one to another would be very good I think for making a massive Poser / Doll site. ^^ Heh, I guess that would go for anything, though. Nice floatie. I like it. I didn't know about the Tenten/Vicky/Maya hybrid, though. Have to check into that one. Isn't it cool how The3dZone's name is spelt like 20 different ways to Sunday in this one thread? ^^

I got the news, somehow the code that makes the JCMs work in the Wetsuit/Swimsuit has been removed from the cr2 by gremlins. I am looking the situation and will upload a link to a new cr2 in a upcomming thread. marty

haha,you noticed the name game too yggdrasil. omni seems to be real creative with my name lately...lol anyway here's a progress report on my new character wip, advice welcomed :0) ZONE

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WIP

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Okay, here is a new cr2 download for the WetSuit/Swimsuit. http://www.renderosity.com/artistdownload.ez?fileid=11375&key=774857 I am looking for some sugestions, what should the swimsuit be called?

I think your charactor is comming along great. She sure looks different in both of those pictures, I am assuming only the texture has changed.

yes makeup and no make up

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summer wear 2, wetsuit ?:0)

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One thing that I am noticing, and this is not a fault of yours or anybody's, but I don't think it has been brought up before. Baron's clothing is nice. What really spins my wheels for his stuff is not the super-cheap price, not the quality of craftmanship, but the fact that you can mix and match and always get a certain look. The material zones in all of his stuff carry the same name, so that when you click on a MAT file, it will apply the same effects to it no matter what the item is. Have you considered doing the same? I know, the catsuit would have more/less materials than the wetsuit, but you can call them the same material names for the layout that you consider best. You know what I mean, right? It would make your stuff infinitely more expandable, and a lot easier for you texture makers to provide consistent quality time and again. I think this is something you might consider for future projects. And they don't have to be limited to Doll stuff and Vicky stuff. Have them interchangable. The reason I brought this up is that I just tried changing the materials on the wetsuit you have up now, but with those other MAT files you have in the other stuff. The neck area changes, but that's about it. Wouldn't it be cool to get that cat-like texture with one easy click right into the suit? ^_^

Point of reference, my Anime Study #005 uses Baron's materials on all the clothing. Albeit, it's Lory's BioGoth she's wearing, but that's how it happened to come out. Pretty neat effect. I'm not saying to make it the same material names as Baron uses, although that would be pretty cool, but use similar material names in your stuff. Generalized names, and have specific areas be more specific names. Just an idea...

Nice thing about the tenten/Maya Hybrid is that you can use standard V2 textures, except for the nipples, very odd mapping there. I had to go in and make some changes to the cr2 and obj files, the fingernails and toenails are named wrong in the materials so they don't map properly. Its an easy fix. Grim

Here's a quick character I threw together to represent the swimsuit I materialized in the Material Room with Ajax's (I think) slime material hooked into the Cel Shader routine. A couple of bugs to get out, but it makes some really nice-looking material. Wonder what I have to do to get it to make it look like it's supposed to look like, though... hmmmm...

Anyways, haven't seen any real problems with the wetsuit, even after putting her through some of the more crazy poses I've got in here. Good quality stuff. ^_^

here's the body ,i covered the naughty parts for the kiddies :0)

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And the same picture, this time with the Poser 4 rendering mode. The trims have returned! LOL... interesting... wonder where they went in the Firefly one?!?

I havn't had the chance to test it yet. Why? Well, last night, i was sick in my bedroom and now my bedroom will stink until mum hires a floor cleaner. During the night i was sick, and got it on my bed, meaning that i had to wait while mum changed the covers. Now this morning, i was sick again because i drank lemonade...and now i have to starve myself for today. And also i'm taking a day off school, which is bad because it was my Math SAT papers today! And i can't take them again...poor me, feel sorry for me! Anyway, i feel a little bit better now, so i think i might just test it.

I like the leaves. That's a really cool effect. ^_^ I think you should offer that as an option for the package.

Well... no explanation for the vanishing trims from one renderer to the other other than the material settings. I guess the Firefly engine displaced the materials so much so that they "covered up" the trims. In the P4 mode, it can't do that. Since the material DOES use displacement, that's all I can conclude that happened between one and the other. Still can't explain the little lines you get, though... probably a result of the material being displaced into the negatives. I dunno... not all that familiar with displacement maps. But what I do know, that's what I'm drawing from... shrug

gee senshitaurus, you sure ought to know HOW to spend a goo birthday time :) sorry you are sick, dude... as for myself i try to whip myself for motivation to get back to poser. had not do a single picture or freebie for more than a month (last update of my website)... btw insomnia: i found that your items had a strange mapping, instead of multiedge polygons they are all but small tiny squares..is this because of rhino ? i ask this because i was starting trying to map a few textures for your products i purchased so far and it is very difficult to make proper/flawless textures (at least for a newbie as i am) with this compared to other stuff i worked on before... especially when i want to correct the seams and makes them smooth...

Breaking it down... each material zone is a different color. You really start to run out of basic colors when there's so many materials! ^_^ Anyways, just wanted to share the stupid little things I do to entertain myself.

I finally did a test! Not much more to say... Another one of my white eyed, shiny haired beuties... Hey, i'm improving in rhino, so if anyone wants a texture/simple prop, i might be able to make one...

Well... I found some. -_- Sorry. I'll provide the links to the actual pictures straight out of Poser.

Oops...forgot the piccie....

Riddokun: Rhino makes the mesh, if the mesh seems strange, well thats because its Rhino, lol. I have control over the mesh, but only limited amount. I can can control its density and have various ways to control the amount of detail or complexity, but in the end, I have to be happy with what kind of mesh Rhino will make for me from the original nurbs model. I have less complaints about models that have four sided polygons over those with three sided polys. marty

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