Weird thing happened after i installed osx panther... poser 4 (which runs slow in classic anyway) quits 90% of the time (render or add character it doesn't matter) I guessed it might do so due to poser 4 not being recommended for use in classic. So started up in os 9.2 (this i'm real worried about)..same deal only less of a % of quits (got to pull off a render or 2). I uninstalled then installed again but it still acts up. ???@#%$! Gonna get more ram to see if it helps, it's been on my to do list for 2 years, I'm at the bare min. of (a 256 meg ram factory installed) RAM gonna get a 512 soon .Time for poser 5?