simontemplar opened this issue on May 16, 2004 ยท 46 posts
simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 9:03 AM
I went to grab it on the yahoo group, but when I tried to unpack it, AVG blew the whistle on a dropper trojan horse...Anyone has occurences of this ?
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Marque posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 9:42 AM
It has always had that problem, and from what I understand it is the way it is set up that makes the virus scanners go crazy. I have never used it because of this, but it is supposed to be safe. You need to ask the creator of the product about it, he would be the best one to explain it to you. 8^) Marque
simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 9:54 AM
I would gladly do so, is there a profile for him ?
Marque posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:10 AM
Someone here who knows will kick in shortly I'm sure...or maybe you could ask where you got it? Marque
wyrwulf posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:18 AM
The file is safe. There are two EXEs that run at the same time on install, so that is what is seen as a trojan horse. It runs a video and installs the files at the same time. The video is pretty cool. Turn off your antivirus, install it to a temporary folder, copy that to Poser, then save the temporary folder as a backup. If I remember correctly, the video installs on C: but I can't remember the name of the file.
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ynsaen posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:21 AM
The file is absolutely safe -- and I'm a paranoid sysadmin who sees virii in everything... no, wait, I'm just paranoid, seeing spies everywhere... um, no... ah, nm.. I don't trust you enough. I'm not going to tell you now. disregard this message....
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:21 AM
Lol I wish... but apparently in the Yahoo Group where it's avalaible, all messages are porn ads. I doubt the aithor's been checking that place lately.
Marque posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:33 AM
LOL vnsaen! I knew more folks would chime in. This file has been around for years, if there was a virus in it I'm sure someone would have made sure everyone knew. 8^) Marque
simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:53 AM
In any case... I haven't been able to run the exe somehow. I tried, after I decided to trust you guys, but nonono it won't work. Anyone care to pass me a "traditional" zip-with-folders-in-it version ? :/ pretty please ?
SndCastie posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 12:25 PM
Renderosity has a zero tolerance for this kind of request please don't ask someone to share a file as this is concidered warz and can get you banned. SndCastie Renderosity Moderator
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 12:44 PM
I did download the file from the place it's avalaible at, but couldn't get it to work, and then asked for a workaround. I didn't know that was a warez attitude? As far as I know it's not worse than asking someone to decompact and recompact a zip I wouldn't be able to open. Unless of course the downloadable file ain't legit itself ? Also, I didn't find a single help file in the yahoo group mentionning if redistribution of it is allowed or not. If I had found such info I wouldn't have asked in the first place... Now of course, I obey the rules and won't nag... so I won't reask.
TrekkieGrrrl posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:22 PM
sndCastie that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. It is a FREE FILE for crying out loud. I WOULD wish the file existed as a normal .zip too, becorse every month people are asking about this supposed Virus and it would be nice to be able to lead them to a normal .exe. But calling that a warez request is insane. Simontemplar, I have that file installed, I'll check for a readme and see what it says about redistribution. In case it's allowed I can zip it up for you. (but I have a feeling that there's nothing stated or people would surely have done it ages ago)
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Riddokun posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:39 PM
well, simon, in fact downloading it from its place should be considered as warez attitude in the first place :) especially for a suspicious copyrigthed character that hopefully did not make its way to rmp...
TrekkieGrrrl posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:48 PM
Hmm What's the filename of the predator? I am sure I've got it, but I can't find it now :o( And therefore I can't check the readme...
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:48 PM
Thanks a lot, ernyoka. Your attitude is heartwarming :)
simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:52 PM
I think it should be either "TBKpredator"... something in these lines.
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 1:59 PM
Just a misunderstanding, lol. The staff just can't know about every single item ever offered for free. It is the free Poser item member TBKoen gave away. It is the Predator figure from the Predator movies. It is NOT infected with a virus. But, the file that is distributed, "predator.exe", is the same name that a real virus once had, so the databses of anti-virus programs see it as a virus. In fact my Mcaffee saw it and deleted it! Grumble.... I had e-mailed and IM'ed TBKoen to no avail, what Yahoo group is it in? I myself would like to get it again, maybe I can talk the author into holding it here at Rendo. AgentSmith Mod
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:00 PM
Yeah, it's called "TBKpredator.exe", or "Predator.exe" AS
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:02 PM
Hold on lemme look.... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TBKoen/ that's the place :)
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:21 PM
Yup, that IS it, Thank You! I'll try contacting the author again, maybe he would let me host his Predator here at Rendo. `Cause their are going to be a lot of people wanting this file again, what with the new movie coming out.... Thanks again. AgentSmith
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:33 PM
I don't know how good it works in P5 though. Since it's a bit ancient now, there might be issues ?
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:37 PM
I'll take a look.... AS
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 2:43 PM
Yeah...my anti-virus is still telling me it has a trojan virus called "MultiDropper". Won't be the first time I tested something from Rendo like this. I forsee a long anti-virus scan after I do this.... AS
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TrekkieGrrrl posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 3:04 PM
Hmm I couldn't find my predator :o( And I can't even download it again, it says I haven't got the rights to download, eventhough I AM logged in and I AM a member of that group :o/ Oh well. And yes of course it was a misunderstanding but shouldn't moderators read the threads before they rush in and accuse people of warezing and threaten to ban them? The very first post stated it was from a yahoo group and since this subject (about the supposed trojan) comes up every few weeks, at least moderators should be familiar with that specific file.
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 3:09 PM
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 3:13 PM
ernyoka1, we have had members re-distributing retail items, or free items that was not their own, through Yahoo groups. SndCastie just didn't know of the Predator. It has been quite a while since I've seen even TBKoen discussed here. AS
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 3:39 PM
Agent, could we arrange something, like, passing me the corrected version, since ernokia seems to have big trouble ? it would kill 2 birds with one stone :)
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 4:33 PM
Nearly impossible, unless you have somewhere where I can upload a 18Mb file. If you do I can, no problem. Btw, scanned all my hard drives, no virus, no adaware, etc. AgentSmith
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 4:35 PM
Well, if I can get ahold of one of the authors, and permission, I'll put it in my file locker and pass out the url. AgentSmith
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simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 4:49 PM
ok :) had also passed you a private message but your option is certainly better. I will look forward to get news from you, Agent :) That is... if the matrix doesn't get me first :p
simontemplar posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 4:51 PM
I won't be back online till another day, so don't worry if I respond late.
mateo_sancarlos posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 7:20 PM
I'd be in favor of changing it to a zip archive, too. In case any of you guys get thru to him.
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AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 7:34 PM
Same here. No virus alerts with a zip file. AS
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SteveJax posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:24 PM
Has anyone seen the 3D Mesh of the Predator Style ship from that yahoo group anywhere else?
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 10:57 PM
Not so far.
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Ben_Dover posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 11:31 PM
For what's it worth, I'm there now and it already IS a zip file. But I get a message that my download limit has been exceeded. "The document you requested is temporarily unavailable because you have exceeded your download limit. Please try again later." I find this strange since I don't go to Yahoo except on rare occasions (such as this one) and have no idea how I've exceeded my limit (one file? that's a pretty small limit....guess I should have tried to download half instead).
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 11:36 PM
It is an .exe inside a .zip file. Not YOUR limit has been exceeded, but the person who's yahoo screenname owns the the group, that's who's limit had been exceeded for the day. Try again in 12-24 hours. It should work. AS
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Ben_Dover posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 11:41 PM
Thanks AS, I'll sneak over later then. Don't tell anyone else though. ;)
AgentSmith posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 11:45 PM
Just our secret.
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SndCastie posted Sun, 16 May 2004 at 11:45 PM
I would like to appoligize for my statement I didn't not know it was a free item. I am sorry if I upset anyone I will try and be more patient with you all next time and find out more first. As for my statement it wasn't actually a out right warning more of a statement to our policy here at Rosity.
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simontemplar posted Mon, 17 May 2004 at 11:45 AM
SndCastie, as far as I am concerned, I am not upset, I was rather a bit surprised at the sudden jump, but that's fine ^^ after all it was only a misunderstanding and we all make mistakes. Hell, if we didn't all make mistakes, I would do nice renders :p
SndCastie posted Mon, 17 May 2004 at 12:51 PM
LOL thanks simontemplar
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TrekkieGrrrl posted Mon, 17 May 2004 at 1:37 PM
Sure, I also want to apologize for my outburst. Of course mistakes happen or we wouldn't be human :o)
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SndCastie posted Mon, 17 May 2004 at 11:14 PM
Thats ok ernyoka1 :O)
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raven posted Wed, 19 May 2004 at 4:17 PM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=345265
It's a great model, it works well in Poser5. Here is a link to a pic I did using it in Poser5. TBKoen also made a great Spawn for Poser too.simontemplar posted Fri, 21 May 2004 at 8:53 AM