Yes that was Little Joe! No he has not escaped from the zoo again...But this is the first test render of my new MM Gorilla texture (WIP and no post work).

Its a potential commissioned project. A local company has gotten the contract for creating a museum style display and traveling interactive exhibition for the Boston Zoo... I was asked to submit some work. It would be a nice treat if I got the jig.

WOW! He does look REAL... wouldn't want to meet him in the street! loll Bravo! France

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Great going on the skin texture. But you need to redo the eyes. Gorrillas' iris take up more space than a human's eyes do. You've got a great start there... don't let a little technicality ruin your chances. :)

After looking at dozens of Lowland Gorilla images. I notice this iris feature as well Tygercub. For this test, I through in my Vista V3 eye / lacrimal texture for this test render. There is still a lot of work yet to go. This texture is all hand done, I hardly ever use a photograph directly pasted in my work. I like creating displacement maps to get my effects - it all takes time. I think part of the problem is in the Dazs MM Gorilla model itself. I feel that the eye openings are to large (human like) and I think the eyes are the same used on all the other MM figures one eye model seems to fit all I guess. They have not compensated for the material groups for a larger iris either but I will later on. Since I only have at this time the free MM Gorilla LE. I am not sure if the Dazs Premier package has any morph targets to compensate for the eye /eyelid openings and the iris - the chances are there isnt any. But your right Tygercub it could be rejected on a small technicality just as this. But I dont think it will.

Hmm... rejection may depend on the visceral reaction your client hopes to achieve. If the client is looking for a "human contact" kind of emotion, the human eyes in your image are perfect and evoke a more personal reaction than realistic eyes. If you can't get the eyes "just right", that might be an angle you could use to sell your work. If you DO need to change the eyes, a good texture map may do the trick. Another posibility would be to import the eye objects into a program that would allow you to move the verticies (i.e. create a morph). Either way, I wish you, CONGRATULATIONS and GOOD LUCK!

I worked with lowland gorillas for two years at Disney's animal kingdom. you've done an excellent job! My only criticisms are: Their skin has more texture/wrinkling to it.. maybe a little less specularity, too. The whites of the eyes are no as white as humans.. they are darker, and a little more yellowish. It also looks like the eye highlight is painted on.. loose that, and add alternate specularity to that material.. it'll look MUCH better. I miss those guys...

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Thanks for the tips and input guys it's always welcome. I worked in some of your suggestions in this render, but there is still a lot work still to get it up to snuff. It would be a big help If I had some really good clear photographs. Then I would not have to speculate so much about the little details.

if you do a google search for "gorilla" under the "images" tab, there are tons of photos where the eyes are pretty clear.

Here are the first three I could find with fairly decent views of the eyes: http://www.interq.or.jp/sun/solaris/konshu/gorilla.jpg http://www.infocusphotos.com/gallery/winuganda/images/Curious%20Female%20Gorilla.jpg http://www.vanermedia.se/bilder/Gorilla-A_M.jpg

Attached Link: http://www.gorilla-haven.org/ghdisney.htm

These are they guys I worked around at Disney.. I used to play hide n go seek with Jabari... I miss those days.. LOL!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I think I have the problem under control with this render. I found this image of just the eye at: http://www.drawn2wildlife.com/images/colour/gorillaeye.jpeg

Oh my! I've never seen gorillas close enough to know specifics but all of the renders are simply gorgeous.

Excellent..excellent work. Just a hint..show the client both version of the eyes..tell him what you've done and why. Let him see the work and 'audience reaction' angle that was mentioned before. That'atention to detail' might help clinch the deal