Many times when I create the thumbnail, and send it through the JPEG optimizer to lower the kb so they can be posted, they turn out really horrid. Horrid enough to make most people pass them by. :( I tend to look at the ones with the horrible thumbnails because I always suspect that the big pic will be wonderful, and it usually is... but I don't believe anyone will look at my work when it's a horrid little presentation. LOL Any tips on how to get around the thumbnail ickys would be greatly appreciated. Miriah