Hi guys/gals, Listen, I don't often post new messages, but I gotta ask and tell. First, what the heck is going on around here? I know SOMEthing about the "new owners" and can understand some changes. But what is all the complaint about? A minor banner ad in the free stuff pages? I didn't even notice it until I saw a post that mentioned it. The brains of internet users have all been conditioned to filter out all the ads and nonsense we are presented with nowadays. I've never clicked on a banner ad, and they don't bother me. If that offends you, I'm sorry, but I don't see what the big deal is about the banner ad in the FreeStuff. Secondly, I'd like to point out how much I like the Carrara/Raydream forum. We are like the suburbs of the hectic Poser/Complaint forums big city. We all know each other, we are a small group and friendly, so despite what goes on in the outside world, the first place I'll continue to check is the `ol Carrara forum. So what's my point? Community. That's what Renderosity is all about. Look at their banner ads sometime. :) 3d artists community. That's what Renderosity should be, not a place for people to make money, or to start flame threads. I don't know. Maybe I'm just a bitter, nostalgic old fool. Peace, Hoborg