check out there platinum club form. "Announcement: Important Message for Platinum Club Members" I guess there is something new next week which is the biggest thing since daz emerged from zygote. quote"make an important announcement that we believe will be a significant instrument in securing the future of DAZ, its customers and community partners" wonder whats up

My initial guess would be: D|S is coming out of beta. Maybe. ;-)

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I just read the announcement, which really isn't an announcement of anything other than the announcement that is to come. Anyway... it does sound BIG. Like, much bigger than just D|S coming out of beta. Big as in an acquisition of some sort that will change the face of the company! Or so they made it seem. Hehe. They left it open to pure speculation of course. So now my bet is that... they're being bought out by Shade. LOL. Shugs ;-P

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I heard that they are going to market models of 'IT/Ginger' and whole virtual cities will be planned and built around the potential of that revolutionary idea! ;) Seriously, it sounds like something they think will have a big impact on the '3d scene' ...

I initially thought they might bring Studio out as a finished product being the announcement, but - that is an internal project, so there are no agreements to prevent them from making any kind of announcement about that... Not to mention, there seems to be alot of work left to do with Studio. I am betting it is something more along the lines of merging with or buying out a studio or other software company.

it only showed up in the platinum club section so far. mmmmm.

Dick Van Dyke (sp?) has just bought them out. Daz3D will be renamed to Petrie Studios (wait for it...wait for it again!) A toon clone of the new owner will be made available free to PC members. PS: Wait for it #1:Mr Van Dyke portrayed Rob Petrie in the 1st Dick Van Dyke show for 5 seasons. He (Van Dyke) has a love for 3D graphics. Daz has made a 3D Toonlike character of him. Alan Alda still has to wait. Wait for it #2. Daz3D spun out of Zygote. Zygotes, petrie dishes...get it? Oh well....

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Maybe a merge with E-On...it would be really nice to have a program called "Vueser" with all the (best) attributes of both.

Why so much chatter about the daz plat club lately? Something new I've overlooked?

...Aura from the Lightwave folks, and, or... what about... BILL GATES aquires DAZ! Maybe Gates see's virtual people as the next big software enhancement and so writes Dan Farr a check he can't refuse...

Out of curiousity I ran a google search on DAZ announcement and got a number of interesting hits. One in particular set reeling, whatever it is up, I am fairly certain it is not Daz from devon. ROFLMHO

DAZ is going public. Everyone ready to buy stock? That's my gut feeling, anyway. And as someone who's worked a decade and a half for a shareholder-driven company, I can tell you that after the first year of euphoria and success wears off, you end up with a constant pressure to produce more profit and bottom line every year that ultimately obliterates everything else. Not good. :S Shareholders first, customers second. I wonder who's going to win that tug of war? :(

hmm..would that make Vickie the Petrie Dish?..;) they never change the face at Daz, they just add more polygons..;)

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Actually the language used for the announcement is common to what is often pressed in advent of a merger to a larger parent organization. Not sure who that party would be but that is my guess. If I had to pick one on a dare, I'd say Adobe.

If I had to pick one on a dare, I'd say Adobe. Mmmmm ... I think Newtek would be a better fit than Adobe.

Could be. I am shooting in the dark anyhow.

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--that was DE-Caffinated TEA they drank.

Given known information that's been bandied about for some time, Newtek is definitely a more likely merger element. Adobe's movement into 3D isn't within the current op plan -- they have two other targets right now (meaning it's not out of the question, just unlikely). Well, based on their current shareholder's statements, that is.

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Sony, on the other hand....

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Deeecey Post #15. eeek! okay time to start planning on the Maya purchase, eeekkk Alias is looking for a new owner!!! OH GEWD NO, PLEASE PLEASE NO not Daz Maya, not Daztek! my 2 cents is on a partnership with Warner Bros for Licencing of characters, all started by the Pixie and the talks rolled from their.... anybody notice that the Pixie is gone from the Daz store to get "bundled" and hasn't returned.... that's my guess.

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DAZ is going public. Everyone ready to buy stock? Actually that was my first thought also. Do you think they'll sell it for $1.99/share in the PC? ;-)

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Since it's only being hyped in the Platinum Club and not Daz as a whole, I think the being bought out or going public is very unlikely. My guess is probably something along the lines of them getting several new producers on board or that they have purchased the resources of another 3D reseller for products in the platinum club. That's my take on it, but I could be wrong...

Actually, the licensing agreements from movie companies sound equally as likely to me...

Daz is becoming a total subscription service (similar to poserworld)

The statement that they are "leveraging their assets" usually means that something they own is being sold to someone else. That "something" could be the entire company, could be their catalog of merchandise, could be that web-art-snagging site, or could be the as-yet-unfinished DAZ|Studio. I doubt if Newtek will buy them outright... what use would they have in a rendering application when they already own Lightwave? Being bought by a game company, OTOH, could be mutually beneficial (but I have a hard time visualizing the merger of such disparate corporate cultures). DAZ has been present at the last 4 Game Developer Conferences, and is interested in that market segment. Leveraging assets can also mean a merger with shares of the non-public company given up for shares of the public company. This can save all sorts of filing fees and legal hassles. Carolly

Judith, lol... $1.99 a share isn't so bad ;-) Actually, going public was my first thought too. But, after letting my more business-savy hubby read the email, he's got me convinced they've bought someone/something.

Guess we'll have to wait & see what happens. Think the announcement will be as good as the hype?

The hype is always bigger ... LOL (EDIT: Meaning to say that the speculation is always more fun to read ;-) )

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So true Deecey :o) I've been having a good giggle reading in the Daz PC forum ;-)

Yup me too 8-)

bet it has something to do with Animation Quest.

Hmm my guess would also be that they've bought Poser - OR Rosity.

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Studio will be out of beta soon (see announcements at Daz)so that can't be it as they advertize it already. My guess is they bought Barbie and Ken.

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I'll guess that Newtek has bought Daz. There's something a bit "sheepish" about the announcement, as though they already are anticipating that a lot of folks are going to be upset, and they want to assure everybody that everything's going to be okay (even though it may not). That sounds like an acquisition to me. And I think Newtek is a likely company to acquire them. -jjsemp

If it's an "Important Message for [b]Platinum Club Members[/b]" (emphasis mine), it's probably nothing that I should be interested in, right?

The big announcement... "Daz is proud to present clothing for a character not named Vicky!!!" Now that would be a major (and quite shocking 'cause it's so rare) announcement.

I think the GIRL is going to be ready and we may get a discount? Just guessing. Sharen

Actually if this is a buyout, it wouldn't surprise me at all is it was Sony buying the operation. Or at least buying out DAZ Studio. :] Fish

BM Thought exactly what you wrote, Veritas777, when I got the announcement of an announcement, except it was green tea with caffeine. Or maybe - they will support P5 from now on...?

" Actually if this is a buyout, it wouldn't surprise me at all is it was Sony buying the operation. Or at least buying out DAZ Studio." Really? Cause that would shock the SH*T out of me! ;-P I think it's probably a Newtek acquisition (meaning, Newtek is buying DAZ). But if DAZ is seriously interested in the game market, they would have been better off getting bought out by Discreet instead. ;-)

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Since it's only being hyped in the Platinum Club and not Daz as a whole, I think the being bought out or going public is very unlikely.

It's being hyped in the PC now, but it's going to affect everyone. "The biggest thing since DAZ spun off from Zygote"? It's got to be a merger, acquisition, or buyout. I think Tyger over at DAZ had it right - Dan Farr was just so excited about whatever it is he's done that he had to tell someone. But the NDA means he can't. So telling just the PC that he'd have something important to tell us later was a compromise.

I think Carolly's analysis is spot-on. The language they used isn't the kind you'd hear if this was just about GIRL or DAZ Studio. It's typical corporate-speak for a buyout or sellout.

To the one who said Daz buying RDNA -- please don't scare me like that. I'm fragile. Now if RDNA suddenly bought DAZ... I'd be rejoicing. It would mean I might get P5 support lol.

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If we're playing theoretical conspiracy theories, the one above where the sick idea of Adobe purchasing Poser is just, well, wrong. It would definately be the death of the program. I've got two program from Adobe that don't do what they are advertised as doing and Adobe won't answer either email or telephone calls for assistance and support. Please, let it be someone who understands what the term "service industry" actually means.

"I've got two program from Adobe that don't do what they are advertised as doing and Adobe won't answer either email or telephone calls for assistance and support." No kidding? What programs are they? Maybe someone here can help if it's just a simple fix. I have Photoshop of course and Adobe Premiere, both of which operate rock solid for me.

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The programs are Contribute and Contribute 2. I talked the department into purchasing several copies for faculty installation and once they were used they locked the user out of their files and set the code so that it couldn't be fetched or repaired. Now they want us to purchase the newest version as well as a new, incredibly expenseive program called Breeze. And they promise the same high level of assistance and support that we've reveived in the past. It's going to take months to repair the damage that Contribute did.

But if DAZ is seriously interested in the game market, they would have been better off getting bought out by Discreet instead. That would be a total nightmare ... the price of everything would go up by 500% and you'd have to use software locks to install the Millenium Figures and other DAZ items. The Portable License Utility would only let you install your items on one machine at a time. Then when the license breaks, you'd have to re-register all of the third-party clothing and prop items with each broker. Yeah ... I can see it now. 8-D

Maybe DAZ and Shade (since there was a recent visit to that part of the world). Or, to mention something that no one else mentioned, perhaps it has something to do with The Sims/Sims II.

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I am thinking that since the message was released to the PC members only at DAZ, then posting this here openly is in violation to DAZ's intentions with their post. Rawn

Or, to mention something that no one else mentioned, perhaps it has something to do with The Sims/Sims II.

Wow, that is an interesting idea. Maybe Electronic Arts is buying DAZ. If they wanted to get into gaming, The Sims would be a natural fit with Poser.

One complaint I've often seen about the new Sims game is that the characters still can't talk, communicating only with speech bubbles and gestures. Maybe EA wants to add Mimic to The Sims...

One complaint I've often seen about the new Sims game is that the characters still can't talk, communicating only with speech bubbles and gestures. I think that would restrict game play. Pre-determined dialog would probably require pre-determined game play. The beauty of the "Wah wah wah wah" style dialog is that you can make up what they are saying in your own head. 8-)

I think Rawn's pretty dead on, hee hee Also, if it is a buyout, from some pretty quick reading, and it is DAZ being bought by someone else, then the two most likely candidates are Newtek and Sony. Sony has been actively expanding it's acquisition structure in 3D and additional media. They have the money. And they have announced the intention to acquire content manufacturers. They produce 5 of the best selling online mmrpgs, and they love niche markets like this they can capitalize on through purchase of a "small" company with a strong growth strategy and a solid core customer base. Newtek wants to bring a poser style marketplace system to Lightwave, and has been agressively pursuing large content providers and establishing growth alliances. My money's on Sony -- they already have software that is used more broadly in the music and video field than adobe at a professional level and they have a well established interest in 3D development and their Vaio systems. Now, that said, it's likely neither. lol. Gotta love speculation. Nothing like it in the world.

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I used to work for Sonic Foundry, who made the music and video products (Vegas, DVD Architect, ACID, Sound Forge, etc.) that Sony recently acquired. That would probably be a cool merger as well ... but I'm still predicting it has something to do with Newtek. 8-)

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"This is the most significant event for DAZ since our spin-off from Zygote." I agree with many that something has either been bought/sold or some form of merger has taken place. Never the less I will be staying away until they get their heads on straight. I have not re-newed my PC membership or have made any purchases as of late. To me I think the content they are displaying is way out in left field. If they are interested in the gaming field so be it. As far as I am concerned their content has become too juvenile for this 'ol salt. Good luck and happy landings Daz!!

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I am thinking that since the message was released to the PC members only at DAZ, then posting this here openly is in violation to DAZ's intentions with their post. Since it affects everyone who buys from DAZ, BFD. If they wanted to restrict it to their precious Platinum Club, they should have left it in one of the So Terribly Exclusive Only a Few Members Can See It fora. A buyout? I rather doubt it. Here they are, getting ready to release what they must assume will be the flagship software for all, and they're gonna let someone else make the profits off their hard work? A bunch of control freaks like DAZ? Sorry, dont think so.

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I don't know if they realize that. Or even if all players feel the way you are. I know the reason I got The Sims was because I wanted to make images of human characters looking and acting like I wanted them to. But it was frustrating, since the Sims characters have minds of their own. Once I found Poser, The Sims started gathering dust. A lot of Sims fans, I suspect, would prefer Poser if they knew about it. And there are likely lots of Sims players who'd love to be able to write "scripts" for their characters to follow. (In fact, the new Activision game, "The Movies," allows you to do something like that.)

Then there's the online version of the game, where you really are dealing with other human beings through your Sims avatars. I don't know if it would be technically possible to type in dialogue and have your character say it in real time, but that might be what they're aiming for.

In any case, if they could get into something like The Sims (with or without Mimic), can you imagine the market there would be? The number of Sims users dwarfs the number of Poser users. They may not be willing to spend as much per item as Poser users, but they'd make it up in volume, selling clothes, hair, props, etc., to all those rabid Sims fans.

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SF products are absolute mainstays here, and since Sony now all but "requires" them (in the nice way they do) when it comes to editing tools across the broad spectrum of what is done within Sony (games, movies, and music), maybe they'll finally get a little respect.

I was pretty worried when the buyout happened -- I've got waayy too much invested in that stuff. Seems to be doing well, though.

As for DAZ not selling if the offer was right:

They didn't hire Brandenburg just to make themselves look pretty.

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SeanMartin "Since it affects everyone who buys from DAZ, BFD. If they wanted to restrict it to their precious Platinum Club, they should have left it in one of the So Terribly Exclusive Only a Few Members Can See It fora." They did ;) Rawn

lmao...

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cedarwolf, the 2 programs you are talking about are by Macromedia not Adobe... maybe this is why Adobe is not responding to you. Those two companies are not best friends too...

If they hadn't wanted the Poser world to speculate about the "nonouncement", then why say anything at all. And if they hadn't wanted it to get out, then why release it to the PC area where it was bound to get dragged out into the open. Basically, I think whatever it is, this was deliberately put in PC to be dragged into the open. Well... the days when announcements from Daz elicited a "Oooo shiney" response from me are long past.

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Well if Rob Petrie and DAZ merge they would probably have to change the name to PEZ! And then only sell 3D models that have a long rectangle on the bottom with a cute little cartoon character head on top. Please note: I am NOT going to explain this joke by explaining the comparison to a PEZ candy dispenser, and I wish people would stop explaining their jokes. I get them! and if someone doesn't already get them, then they don't deserve having it explained to them! BTW: I'm just joking of course. But here I am explaining that I'm just joking for those people that might have taken me seriously.........

There is something to be said for having a job where you play with really cool software and teach other people how to play with it. Yes, I totally loved that job ... was in the consulting and training department. I was let go in that really big mass layoff they had at the end of 2000, and have been pining ever since. I STILL use and love their stuff. 8-) To bring it back on topic (LOL) it's not always a bad thing when buyouts or mergers happen, so if that is what is taking place here I don't foresee it being gloom and doom.

That was a joke? um, I don't understand. Could someone explain it to me?

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Thank you, I feel much better now! (It must have been the announcement that sent me into a tizzy)

ha! you're doomed, now! Gonna corner you one day and get you to explain to me how to use a couple of the editing features for the additional buses... mergers are usually good for some people. In this case, it might be good for a lot of people.

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bwa hahahahahahahahahahaha~ Another one infected.... back to topic (straight face) hey, what if they really are going to support Poser 5? Dang -- that would make things pretty crazy 'round these parts...

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Dang, I just realized they won't post anything until next Friday. Well, isn't that when DAZ posts everything? Fridays?

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Okay. Start from here. They did not send 3 or more DAZ employees over to Japan to interview a few of our most fantastic Poser guru icons. It was great to meet the men behind the myths, but that had to be an aside to REAL REASON for the trip. What company is in Japan that DAZ would merge with? I haven't a clue, but that should be a start in solving it, if anyone has that knowledge. Tim

Curious Labs' new owner, e-Frontier, is based in Japan.

So is Sony.

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Daz just bought out e-frontier so they now own Poser. The Daz monopoly of the 3d posing world has arrived ;)

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That's it! DAZ bought Sony! ;-)

I'm just still wondering why Darth Vader visited Daz...

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Tokyo (API) -- Today, in a small and utterly insignificant wireservice story, Sony announced that they had purchases the companies e-frontier, DAZ3D, E-on, Eovia, and acquired the rights to several programs from the struggling Corel Corporation after ten months of relentless backroom negotiating. These properties will be combined under a new, sub-corporation that will be named Metacreations, and will specialize in providing the nascent community of 3D Artists online with the tools and content necessary to make instant art through four mouse clicks. The new Chief of Sony Digital Art Products - Metacreations, is a former President and CEO of Viewpoint Corporation. He has sworn that they will completely rewrite all source code from all the companies applications into a single, monolithic entity that is guaranteed to work perfectly on all systems produced by Sony Computers, and absolutely nothing else. This announcement follows the earlier announcement three seconds earlier that Microsoft and Sony have merged into Sonysoft, and the new company has recently placed a 170 billion dollar offer for Apple Computer that is effectively 8 times the stock price, all but ensuring that the recent round of bribery of the current FTC members has not been for naught.

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Sony's a good possibility. But so is e-Frontier. Remember those CL surveys we all took? Dollars to donuts, they showed that most people use DAZ figures, not the P5 ones. So buying DAZ would natural, if e-Frontier means to continue the Poser line.

The announcement refers to the fact that very soon, Daz will be making an announcement that will tell you all that Daz is shortly going to be releasing an announcement, concerning an announcement that will be made in the near future about (cont. p104).

lmao!

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Well....I have to wonder about CL...the guys who do the "cubed babies" etc are now working for CL...there was an article on CL's website about a month ago regarding this. This says CL is getting serious about upgrading their models...This is a good thing :) Who knows....

I agree, it could be a good thing if e-Frontier buys DAZ. It means they are serious about Poser, which can only be good news. And if they are acquiring DAZ, perhaps it means they plan to keep Poser affordable, since DAZ's customers generally aren't deep-pocketed corporate types.

It also means the death of D|S.

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To be honest I never cared about D/S anyway...I already have too many proggies to learn and "master"...don't need another LOL..

Maybe not. Maybe DS will end up a high-end application, while Poser will be entry-level. Maybe they'll be fully compatible. If it means DAZ support for P5, I'm for it. ;-)

I am thinking that since the message was released to the PC members only at DAZ, then posting this here openly is in violation to DAZ's intentions with their post. ------------------------------------------------------ bzzt wrong... I'm not a current platinum club member (haven't been for months) and I recieved the 'information' via email from them. Seems to me if DAZ didn't want 'everyone' to know, they shouldn't have told anyone... after all they know how this community works. Whisper something at point A and within 30 seconds B-Z know all about it. Without a doubt this was done to generate some 'buzz' which could possibly turn out to be much ado about nothing. But if it is something 'big' I personally I hope it's DAZ bought something and not somebody bought DAZ.

has anyone just written to them and asked?..;) don't feel bad pzrite..noone got my petrie dish joke either..;)

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Ditto, Moonbiter. I'm not a PC member, haven't been for a long time (and then only for one month), but I got the spam- er, um, that is, the announcement, too. And anyway, the only way to keep a secret is to, well, keep it. The minute you tell the general public, "members only" or not, it's no longer a secret.;) I doubt DAZ could afford to buy anyone, more likely they're the ones getting bought, and I think e-frontier is the likeliest candidate. After all, they just bought Poser, why wouldn't they want the leading content producer to go with it? You know, you buy Barbie, so next you want lots of clothes for her, the Barbie house, the Barbie car, Ken, etc.;) And if it's anything less than a a buy/sell type thing, then simply it's not as important as they're making it out to be.

"I am thinking that since the message was released to the PC members only at DAZ, then posting this here openly is in violation to DAZ's intentions with their post." You must mean to repost the ACTUAL message here. I would have to say that's probably a no-no. But if you mean to discuss things that were posted in the PC forum... I say PHOOEY! I'm a PC member, and if I want to talk about this here or anywhere else, I will. They can revoke my membership if they don't like it, and forego the thousands of dollars I spent on their products over the past few months alone! LOL. Honestly, I don't think they give a damn or they wouldn't have posted it in the first place. Do they think all their PC members are as clandestine as the Secret Service? hehe. WOW... this thread is moving faster than my colon after Indian food. Excuse the blunt analogy. ;-)

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the Barbie house, the Barbie car, Ken, etc Haven't you heard? Ken has been officially dumped. My guess is that Barbie has her eyes on G.I. Joe now. 8-)

I'm NOT a PClub member any longer. A PClub newsletter announcement went out in an email. Anybody who signs up for that newsletter got the info. discussing it here aint no biggy. no clue what's in the thread at PClub at Daz, tht would prob be a no no to post anything from that forum thread, then again, maybe not.

Pretty much the same speculation. 8-)

Barbie faked it with Ken

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That little hussy!
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Yeah, CNN even covered it! Bigger headlines than the Britney Spears mini-marriage ...

So watch out, Mike! If Vicky sets her sails on David it's all over. Can you imagine? TWO DAYS before Valentine's Day. The nerve!

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found this on the net with a google search of /DAZ Acquired/ THRAE.com will change dramatically in terms of offerings as we move away from the old and into the new. We are still in product testing at the moment and hope to offer some sneak peeks in the near future. The only hint we can provide is to have you check out http://www.daz3d.com. We hope you'll like what we will have to offer!

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with further searching I think what I just posted was some old news... sorry

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OREM, UT: For immediate release Speculation ended today when it was announced that Microsoft (MCSFT) has purchased the 3-d content provider DAZ, Inc (DAZ3D). DAZ's 3-d software application will be renamed "MS Studio" and will become part of Microsoft's Office suite of programs. Plans are already underway to link Studio to other Office programs: a user will be able create a database in Access, mail merge it into Word and then render it in Studio. Accountants will be able to take their spreadsheets from Excel into Studio and create full 3-d models of their data. Of course, these models can then be brought into PowerPoint for presentations or into FrontPage for publishing to the web. As for the Mac version of Studio, a Microsoft represntative had this to say, on condition of anonymity: "Windows is the future. Choice is irrelevant. Resistance is futile." Listening to the feedback from users, Microsoft planned to add incredible new features to Studio, which include the following: We interrupt this message for the following important message: In a hostile take-over, Microsoft has purchased the Walt Disney Corporation and AOL/ Time Warner. This just in: Microsoft purchases the United States Government, deletes "anit-monopoly" regulations.

Here's my 1/4 cents worth. They're bringing back the deposed CL management, programers, and writers to give them another chance to get it right!

That'll teach me to try to answer email and forum postings while working in three different programs and consulting with a student at the same time!!! I meant Macromedia, reallyl I did....

Possibly DAZ is going public at stock exchange and Platinum members will be able to buy shares at a lower price than the initial market price or earlier or something like that? Just a guess I had spontaneously! ;-) Bernie

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Pretty much the same speculation. 8-)

Yup. Only the DAZ thread is a lot longer, and the speculation a lot funnier - involving bunnies on Viagra, digital clones of the Olsen Twins, and insect overlords enslaving us in the confines of underground rendering caves, among other things (a lot of other things).

From the origial post: "Announcement: Important Message for Platinum Club Members" I guess there is something new next week which is the biggest thing since daz emerged from zygote. quote"make an important announcement that we believe will be a significant instrument in securing the future of DAZ, its customers and community partners" The quote marks aren't mine...they're from wrpspeed, the origial poster. Please note the part about "...biggest thing since DAZ emerged from zygote." is NOT a quote from DAZ.

Pakled, I got your Petrie dish joke :o) Have I won a price?

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Not a direct quote, no, but the original message did say basically the same thing. I believe the words they used were "most significant" instead of "biggest."

They've bought the company that makes the renderer used in D|S

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"Please note the part about "...biggest thing since DAZ emerged from zygote." is NOT a quote from DAZ."

No, the exact quote is: "This is the most significant event for DAZ since our spin-off from Zygote."

Is there a difference?.

Oh, sorry. I'm not a member of the PC club so I couldn't read the statement. I was just going on what wrpspeed wrote: "I guess there is something new next week which is the biggest thing since daz emerged from zygote." My bad.

I'm getting confused. I think the jokes are poisoning the context of the discussion. But if DAZ3D tried to limit this announcement to Platinum Club members, I don't think it's likely to be something about a change in who owns the company. Stock Exchanges, at least, have rules about how stuff can be announced, and I think that rules out the involvement of any company with shares traded on an exchange. Maybe they're having a sale.

I don't think a sale would qualify as "This is the most significant event for DAZ since our spin-off from Zygote." However, that said...I wouldn't mind the WHOLE Daz store being on sale for 1.99 LOL

The new store design they're planning to rollout over summer may have something to do with the announcement too.

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I think DAZ just want to see how long a thread of speculation they could start ;-)

You might as well PAY attention, because you can't afford FREE speech

Maybe Daz wanted to see how long an OT thread could last in this forum without any mention of the program that it's for ;)

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I disagree about the jokes - Dan Farr has posted several times in the DAZ Members Only forum and he seems to be taking our jocularity in stride. A few folks are upset that bandwidth has been wasted on an announcement announcing that an announcement will be announced, but most of us are just having fun. And I'm the first one to post (in the DAZ Members Only forum) that I think that DAZ bought Curious Labs, so if that's it I should win a free Platinum Club item! ;)

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Hey! I started that petrie dish thing! :b sulks! I think the announcement was made to PC club members FIRST (implies a SECOND) because they ARE CLUB MEMBERS. What ever goes on is going to affect ALL the customer base, but being IN means you get the good(?) news first. CURSE YOU VISA and MASTERCARD! CURSE ALL YOU FOUL PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OVER WITH CHARGEBACKS!!! So how about that Poser Program?

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***Rockr wrote:** Dont know if youve gotten one already, but ive just received this:

"Rudolf, Here at DAZ Productions, we are creating an online Bryce forum, in an effort to revive the Bryce community. We also have plans to create a gallery of choice Bryce images, and even run some contests in our store. As you know, Bryce is an amazing 3D resource. We feel that not enough has been done to support the community that has been so loyal to the program. We would like to invite you to be involved in this process. We need forum moderators, gallery images and people who are just plain enthusiastic about Bryce. Please contact me via phone or e-mail, listed below, if you are interested in helping to spearhead this exciting project, or if you have any suggestions for this project. Your involvement would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Melissa Vanderlaan Marketing Operations Coordinator DAZ Productions"*

Of all the programs out there, why in the hell would DAZ be so interested in Bryce? It's been dead for some time now. I'll bet it could be bought real cheap, though...

Bryce 5 price in cataloges is about $50.00. As far as I know there were no plans for 6 in the works. Corel would proably let it go.

I could careless about Bryce...besides that..how would that revolutionize the community???? That's a dead program basically...no offense to any Brycers out there :)It wouldn't. Most 3d forums have a place for Brycers anyway. If they were interested in Progress they should check into Vue/Terreagen & MojoWorld.

How would that revolutionize the community? Well, if DAZ owned Bryce, they could make it work with DAZ Studio in ways that it never has with Poser, maybe even in even ways Poser has never worked with anything. Sure, there are Poser plugins for Vue, Carrara, Maya, etc. But if DAZ actually owned Bryce, they could integrate them in ways you'll never see with apps owned by separate companies. Of course, this is still pure speculation. But it sure does look suspicious.;)

maxxxmodelz stated "WOW... this thread is moving faster than my colon after Indian food. Excuse the blunt analogy. ;-)" Well if that's the case it should all come out in the end :-D :swims off and hides behind a large, spear proof rock: :)

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Maybe DAZ Productions will simply treat ALL its customers in an equitable manner. Now that would be news worth knowing about!

I'll agree on the suspicious part X2000...I noticed that earlier. Kinda strange actually....since Bryce is dead, they'd pick that one to have a forum for..when the others I mentioned above are more up & coming & being updated frequently. That said...I've got Bryce & thought it...well..not my cup of tea ;) So it's no longer residing on my puter.:D

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Bryce??!! Eyew. Er, no offense to Bryce fans, but the idea of DAZ starting to do Bryce stuff as well as Poser doesn't thrill me. If the big announcement is they're buying Bryce, color me underwhelmed.

You got that right randym77...I'd be :( & grrrr...talk about underwhelmed..that would be an understatment with all this hype crap. Then again..the Brycers would be....I don't know...they complain about Poser all the time in their forum. Just like all the LW users who think us Poser users are beneath them...same difference(in case there is something happening along those lines)

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Man I hope it ain't true about Bryce, unless they plan on a major re-write. IMO, Bryce is a royal pain to use compared with Vue, which imports Poser scenes easily...no plugin needed.

I agree Jackson...the disappearing task bar(top) & the slow rendering is more than I could bare even at a cheap price......that was money flushed down the toilet :( IMHO.

Someone in a post above (ShadowWind?) mentioned that they thought it was just something to do with the Platinum Club because it's only PC members who got the email, however, that's one of the perks of being a Platinum Club member, in that PC members get advance news of things that take place at DAZ, so I doubt it's something affecting only the PC. I won't even try to make a guess. I'll just wait to see what they announce next week. Melanie

Deecey... post 52... LOL at the thought of seeing a PC box with a huge rock on top of it to stop it from tipping over from the weight of 50 parallel or USB dongles (software locks) piggybacked onto one another for all the different products.

GO BRYCE!!! GO BRYCE!!! GO BRYCE!!!

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"PC members get advance news of things that take place at DAZ, so I doubt it's something affecting only the PC" We got advance warning by... about 2 minutes. "|posting this here openly is in violation to DAZ's intentions with their post" How does one violate SOMEONE ELSE'S intentions?

LOL@John Render! I just chuckled at your post! :-)

With DAZ's wording...absolutely sounds like a corporate merger of some sort. I VERY much doubt it is with Sony, or with Bryce, lol. DAZ most likely just wants to create a niche in its DAZ nest-site for Bryce users, is all, get them interested in DAZ Studio. ;o) Which...Bryce, for a "dead" program, sure has a large user base and an average of 3 times the amount of daily gallery uploads as Vue....;o) (relax...its all good, Terragen is going to blow everybody away one day, lol) AgentSmith

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How about if "DAZ Bryce 6.0" is just a landscape plugin for DAZ Studio 1.0?

Would be a waste unless you could also (at least) use Bryce's materials and raytracer. Lol, I rarely do landscapes with my Bryce anyways. AS

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Rumor has it Bryce and Lightwave are currently hidden in the DAZ store and listed as DAZ Originals.

Well, Bryce materials would be a given in such a scenario, but is its raytracer significantly better than a Renderman-type rendering engine?

Rumor has it Bryce and Lightwave are currently hidden in the DAZ store and listed as DAZ Originals.

Really? Hmm. There's no way in hell DAZ could buy Lightwave, I'm not sure they could even afford Bryce. If this is true (and that's a big if, the rumors are running wild), then the only conclusion I can draw is that Newtek bought DAZ and Bryce both.

Time will tell...

I happen to know they HAVE bought Lightwave :)

Maybe they couldn't afford Bryce at the moment, Corel is holding onto it for a little longer sice it is selling so well at $79. But after the sales go down.... (they WERE going to sell it a year or two ago for much cheaper than you would think)(didn't happen) "but is its raytracer significantly better than a Renderman-type rendering engine?" Heck no. Lol, I love Bryce, but I'm not gonna blow that kinda smoke up anyone's skirt. AgentSmith

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I happen to know they HAVE bought Lightwave.

If DAZ really has made that kind of money from Poser content, maybe I should become a merchant again.;) Message edited on: 06/18/2004 07:23

Maybe they have found the cure for Cranial Rectal Compression Syndrome? Grin

Heh... Maybe Dan has a friend in the banking business.

They've bought at least one copy, probably more, for modelling in :)

"They've bought at least one copy, probably more, for modelling in"

Nah, the cheap bastards use Anim8or.;)

All of this is just speculation. When DAZ is ready to announce the announcement of their announcement, they will announce it. Until that time, any speculation of their soon-to-be announced announcement of their announcement is only speculative speculation of their announcement.

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Hmm, an interesting thought: I wonder why people have a need to guess what an announcement is all about. Imaginations run wild. I guess if we just wait a few days, we won't have to wonder any longer. :) Melanie

well, for some of us it was just the sheer fun of speculatin'. Can't speculate less'n ya gots somethin to speculate 'bout! besides, we've got little else to do while waiting for things to finish rendering, lol

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I have no life, work has taken any sanity left. Just sometimes nice to see if the guesses are/were close. Why to people look at the big bottle of jelly beans and think they know the number? haha.

"Maybe they couldn't afford Bryce at the moment, Corel is holding onto it for a little longer sice it is selling so well at $79. But after the sales go down...."

Corel has just been bought out. I forget the name... starts with a V. (No, it's not DAZ). Their website's down pending full revision under the auspices of the new owners, as we speak.

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You are all wrong! Their April Fool joke went over so big they decided to repeat it this month.

No, no. Dan Farr has already denied that it's a upgrade of the Millennium Cube. ;-)

Ha! It is to the Millenium Cube what David is to Michael 3...

Daz just bought out renderosity and e-frontier so they now own Poser lmao i like that one and they make poser 6 witch the face room works on all daz ppl judy and don are killed and v1 ,m1 takes there place hair room works better and looks real and you get the old poser 4 thing back for loading textures and the best part is drum roollll It's a free upgrade for pc members but 300$ for not being a pc member with a real working hand book :P ROTFLMAO

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to add to the rumour mill found this odd link on google http://www.thrae.com/ht/news/span.html

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already mentioned

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Maybe they're going to abolish the Platinum Club? Seriously, with the uncertainty, is it wise to join the PC?

Yes. 30 day refund policy works on the pc too, so it's FAIRLY safe.

"Maybe they're going to abolish the Platinum Club? Seriously, with the uncertainty, is it wise to join the PC?" nnaaaa announcement says PClub member are gunna like it and it was a Pclub announcement and newletter statement. something to expand, like content or offers for PClub members is more likely

Daz have bought Bryce & they're going to remake it so it's better than Vue thereby killing vue & poser with one hit, the monopoly begins ;)

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