SOMEBODY IN CONTACT WITH DAZ KNOWS IF REALLY SOMEDAY KIM GOOSSENS THE G.I.R.L. IS GOING TO BE RELEASED?? (David blah-blah-blah, Bryce bla-blah-bla, ...) This wait is killing me

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Yes. Kim Goosen's G>I>R>L is really going to be released. When she is ready AND she has enough associated products. They will not release her alone. They will release her with outfits and places to be (I think they want to NOT allow nviatwas' with her. Might even be in the license...) all at once. Takes time to do. patience, grasshopper...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

Considering the damn thing was due for release in May they are dragging their heels. Also, I don't know why there'd be a non NGIATWAS clause, since the original was shown sans clothing - and with what appeared to be genitalia, too. Now, what's the betting those bits have been removed from the DAZ release version?

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I think the license requires that the G.I.R.L always wears at least panties and a bra, so those will be part of the mesh. Only renders of G.I.R.L. in panties, bra with a sword in a temple will be allowed- (But MAT poses will allow the panties and bra to be a polkadot bikini also).

On K. Goosens site or whatever that site was GIRL was originally posted on Goosens said it wasn't till the end of May, I think the 28th, could be wrong there....that the sale to Daz was finalized. As a matter of fact when Goosens posted GIRL originally the privates were blurred out & people in the thread bitched...so the blurries were removed & she was shown naked a bunch of times.

The beta version was sent to PAs just 2 weeks ago, and people are feverishly working on stuff for her now. They did not have textures yet for her then, or even hair, though with a little fiddling, Koshini hair fits VERY well. There may be a newer Beta of her this weekend, but I'm SURE Daz is being swamped by Bryce stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised if Girl gets a delay because of growing pains.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

THE G.I.R.L. WITHOUT GENITALIA????

I saw the original renders of her and I was surprised and falling in love of her satin skin, the toonish look, the soft lines, the genitals... all THE ORIGINAL G.I.R.L. How many changes will have the final release?

Damned morality. O tempora o mores, Cicero dixit.-

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"I think the license requires that the G.I.R.L always wears at least panties and a bra, so those will be part of the mesh." ;-) I wish I could show you some of the stuff I'm working up for her, but I'm not allowed.

The G.I.R.L. is an outstanding piece of work obviously. Not for the modeling or the rigging, though those are really sweet, but for the style it brings.

So far, none of the toon characters in the poser world really come close to the style that inspired the trend. To be fair, some of them are excellent examples of a different style (Staci and Koshini come to mind) but I find some of the toon characters to be unattractive or (no offense) somewhat badly modeled. Doing a figure like "The GIRL" correctly is every bit as demanding as doing a realistic character - it is not an excuse to rush something out.

Anyway, there is a lot of great information on the process over in the CG Channel thread. One of the awesome things about that forum is how much WIP people post and the general skill level of the responses. The overwhelming peer pressure of having all that talent there tends to make people be quiet unless the can be polite and say something smart. Piss someone off on CGchannel might be losing a future paycheck :)

The system isn't perfect though in case anyone thought we just wind up hearing this sort of thing on this forum...

A comment from francomanko on Feb 05, 2003

*"er...hmmm...excellent modeling..but why the typical naked young(if not borderline child ) woman......it makes me wonder if the majority of people here are sexually frustrated, or lack the ability to talk to real girls, because the majority would probably find this a little sad..

But hey, each to their own.. and again well impressive skills ..

I'm sure you'll make a lot of boys very happy, at home.....alone....with noone watching....oooh u dirty man!... :0"*

A comment from Kim that might be of interest from July 13, 2003

*Hi I've been thinking also about putting her on turbo squid or E-bay, but I'm not going to do this.

There are 2 reasons for that.

If I do this i'm afraid some people are going to spread some vulgar images and animations of her. She is not intended for such content. The short I'm going to create with her is an attempt to create a subtile erotic story.

The second reason is because the model is not finished, I'm not going to give an incomplete model away.*

As a side note Kim used Maya for to model her. God bless him cause I really, really don't gel with the Maya history tools. I know, it's an awesome tool and I am taking nothing away from it at all... I have seen amazing work done in Maya. Personally I am much, much happier with the stack on 3DS Max. I see so many people posting that they accidentally blew away their history (and thus are stuck with a static model they can no longer easily change) it actually blows me away when someone does something like this in it. Fortunately nothing about her or the information he gives is Maya specific.

On the other hand he exported her to Max to rig and animate so I guess no one gets to use her as a pure trophy in a software war :)

A comment from Kim that might be of interest from July 05, 2003

"The reason that I've rigged her in Max instead of lightwave, is because actually know max better now than Lightwave layout. This has grown over the past few years because I felt max gave me more control for animation and shading."

Some high points from the thread:

• The main thread
• A page with links to awesome hi-res images [image1] [image2]
• A page with some animations and great rigging info
• A page with a detailed look at the hair
• A page with a first look at the rig

Jim's stuff (that I've seen) DOES look killer. Girl won't disapoint.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

"I think the license requires that the G.I.R.L always wears at least panties and a bra, so those will be part of the mesh." Well, say goodbye to 50% of the sales she might have gotten and say hello to even more Daz badmouthing.

Well- there IS a hidden Easter Egg in Bryce 5, which- if you import the G.I.R.L. via Daz Studio (using ONLY the new DAZ file version- not the Poser version) and then press Control-Alt and type "G.I.R.L" (all caps, no spaces, no quotes) - she will appears in Bryce 5 TOTALLY NUDE!!! The DAZ Bryce plug-in automatically detects the Bra and Panties clothing mesh on G.I.R.L and STRIPS THEM OFF! But for license reasons you still must do the special Easter Egg thing. (A pop-up note will say: By hitting these special hidden key-strokes- you agree that you will not be offended by a Totally Nude G.I.R.L and hold DAZ and all its assigns harmless for any insuing nude-sword temple scenes.) Naturally, DAZ throught that this would be a good way to kill many birds with one stone-- marketing wise.

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***"As a side note Kim used Maya for to model her. God bless him cause I really, really don't gel with the Maya history tools."***

I wonder if Kim really used the Hercules plugin for 3dsMax to make those renders we see look so good.

Check out the link provided, and you'll see G.I.R.L. pushing the product on Turbosquid.

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Gareee, according to everything I've read G.I.R.L. was modelled in Lightwave (not Maya) & boned in Max

Unbelievable. So, Daz will release GIRL without the ability to be nude, as per the creator's (unbelievable) request? Yet, if you buy Bryce from Daz (very poor render engine) and D|S (which is still in Beta), you get to by-pass the no-nude request the creator made and have her nude?

Does DAZ really thing the GIRL is all that? Granted, she is the original and she is very cute - but between all the hype and the bullsh*t, and the apparent no nude clause (unless you buy more Daz products) I'm getting quite tired of GIRL. Which sucks because at one time, I was really excited about her release to the Poser community.

I guess I'll just stick with my original Sara - since I find her to be the best looking 'toon' girl anyway.

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Something else that I have noticed that nobody has mentioned, the rendering engine. Most people are going to be disappointed when they load up the GIRL and hit render in Poser unless they do some serious light work. it will be interesting to see the quality of renders when she is released.
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Veritas forgot to hit the "sarcastic" tag before he submitted his post it seems...... If they really are building in a bikini to this model, I give it approximately 3.5 days before there are about 17 "Perfect G" morphs which will zap the said bikini polys back to where they should go and give her a fully functional virtual reality hoo ha.... Disclaimer, I'm not interested in this model, or its hoo-ha, or lack thereof, it's just a fun thread....

I made no mention at all of what modeler girl was made in. I think someone else did. BTW all Veritas's comments about girl are all just jokes or rumors. The model provided to brokers was nude, with no modeled panties, bra, ect. And even sans textures, she looks great, just setting base materials. I'm sure she'll look even better with proper textures in place. Her ankles and legs looked a little heavy to me, but morphs are provided to change that appearance. Rendered in P5, (the only thing I have here) she look perfect, and she has some great expression headmorphs, much like Neftoon Gal does.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I'm surprised nobody seems to mention 3dCommunes Alexa when the topic of toon characters comes up. I think it's an excellent model.

Both Alexe and Neftoon Gal haven't caught on in the poser community much, for some reason. I think Sara (original) is more popular then both, and really wonder how the new Stacie will fare.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

"BTW all Veritas's comments about girl are all just jokes or rumors. The model provided to brokers was nude, with no modeled panties, bra, ect." See? Everybody's got their "panties" in a bunch for nothing! ;) Coldrake

Something else that I have noticed that nobody has mentioned, the rendering engine. Most people are going to be disappointed when they load up the GIRL and hit render in Poser unless they do some serious light work. it will be interesting to see the quality of renders when she is released.

Well, that's if you actually get someone to post a true render of her that hasn't been heavily painted over in photoshop. ;-)

She's definitely not going to look anywhere near as good as she does in Kim's renders straight from Firefly or P4 or Bryce. I'm not talking about the rendering engine, but simply the bends and seams of the mesh itself won't be nearly as good as the original (of course) because of Poser's "translation" of joints, etc. Kim boned the original in 3dsMax (probably with Character Studio), so he had the luxury of weight maps, and more advanced skinning/physique techniques.

But... it will be interesting. Should be a good model to work with.

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There are some new joints setups in her that are quite , um, interesting. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to post pics of the beta version yet.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

In ref to Gareee's post: I am really disappointed in the lack of support for the Neftoon Gal who has been totally ignored by the Poser community. Alexa, on the other hand, has a ton of stuff available for her, you just never see her or her clothing in use. She is basically located exclusively at a site few folks visit...3D Commune. The GIRL holds no interest to me panties or not.

Mon, I really am going to get that Tink dress out for Neftoon Girl some day.. promise! (It actually grew to even be useable for more dress types.) I also have some headmorphs I'll get out for Neftoon gal one day as well. I think, as I've mentioned before, there are WAY too many characters coming out, and people making content for them are spread out too thinly. Sara (1 and 2), Steffie, Neftoon Gal, Alexa, GIRL, and girl could easily be morphs from the same base character. Koshini 2, Krystla, and probably Kiki could all easily be morphs from the same base character. I couldn't even count the number of male models now, with Dodgers new guys. While diversity and variety are usually good, this could actually hurt the poser community long term, because the learning curve for each figure takes time, and items and clothes in many cases cannot easily be shared between figures. Here's a great case in point: The main "people" figures I've bought this year alone: Freak Shazam K2 Krystal Penelope Kiki Number of actual non ad type renders with them: 0! I've been playing quite a bit with all the other toon type characters I've also gotten though, like: Heavies I, II, III (my Heavies expansions, of course) Daz Pixie Tomcat Puck (toon) Spike Lots of various renders with these guys. Why? I didn't have to buy clothes packs I, II, III for them to be useable. I didn't have to use clothes convertor, Tailor, or anything else to make them look like I wanted. I just don't WANT to have to spend a full week on an outift that might be used on a character once. If these characters were morphs of a base character, then at least the cloths could be used from character to character. I just think the character base is growing faster then the user base anymore. Dodger does have the right idea, I think though. It seems like he's converting clothes, and morphs to go from character to character, and at least that helps a little, for the Aeon fans.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I really didn't care for Neftoon Gal's look. However, I did purchase Neftoon Pal as a companion to Sara. I think he complaments her wonderfully. Alexa I picked up as well, but over all, I simply like the original Sara so much more.

Actually...

I recently wanted a toon model and looked around.

Alexa
LaRoo
Neftoon
MayaDoll (I think)

were the ones I looked at very closely.
Sara wasn't considered. Especially not after her face got changed without so much as a by-your-leave.
Koshini in any shape or variation didn't even make the cut and never will. Yuck. :) (Sorry Koshini lovers, I think she is horrible lol)
G.I.R.L. wasn't considered. At all.
I swore I wouldn't buy another figure from Daz and so far I've stuck to it. I don't care what G.I.R.L is or isn't. I don't care who made her. I don't care how great she is, or how much will be available for her.
There is a DAZ sticker on her. Put a Daz sticker on it and I'm not buying. My personal choice, and one I will stick to. No renewal of PC either.
Don't get me wrong. This is not a reflection of the quality of the models. They can be as superb as anything, it's purely where it comes from. I've had enough BS, and I'm voting with my wallet.

I bought Alexa and various things for her and I am VERY pleased with her and will continue to look for things for her.
Neftoon simply didn't have as much visual appeal to me as Alexa.

As for renders of her... Alexa - Image done for a friend of mine
Now... She wanted the bust like that lol, it's just the only one I got online atm. Alexa isn't as busty as that by default :)
The dress is the "Frost" (dynamic) dress.
Hair is the Ponytail from Polymage.com (Neftis)
Skin texture is modified by me (She's a dark elf... don't ask.)
Rendered entirely and without any postwork in P5.
Oh yah, I like her. A lot. She is very versatile :)

Silke

I will agree with Garee on this point..WAY too MANY characters coming out as of late and quite frankly my wallet can only take so much. New characters/clothes etc...just can't afford all of it. In addition, I'm not willing to go thru hoops to try & get the clothes to fit all the different models coming out and go thru decoding and all that crap...it's just not worth it to ME...and I emphasis me here.

I personally do renders with "normal" people, so these cartoonish characters don't interest me at all. They all remind me of the Chucky doll & I find them hideously ugly....no offense to all those who love them...this is just MY opinion

But that's just me & my worthless opinion...But hey, diversity is always good :)

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While I can't show any pics now, I can say that DAZ is using some new ideas on her, and she bends pretty well, even in the beta version. Some of the things they did also make it a tiny bit harder to model clothing for her, but you can't make an omlet without breaking eggs. ;-)

Yep, I agree with Jim Burton on this as well. I kinda wish we had gotten an updated beta with some base textures, and her official hair though by now. As I mentioned before though, I'm sure Daz is swamped with Bryce right now, and they are splitting their personal workforce right now. Besides.. gives me more time to work on GIRL things, or tinker with toys I haven't even opened yet, like clothes convertor, and the millenium magnet set.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Well, there's always G.I.R.L, SR 1!

Personally, I think Staci and Sara are cute in the face but have UGLY bodies. Same as Alexa from 3dCommune. Koshini and Krystal are good all around. Neftoon Gal just strikes me as fakey, not toony. I'm SO sick of all the toon gals without any useful toon males.

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I'm SO sick of all the toon gals without any useful toon males.<< That's an excellent point, I was considering buying Staci to work on a friend's project (actually was going to use her to trace renders for a 2D cartoon), but when my friend found out there was no male counterpart, we decided to go a different way. I'd like to see an improved Ichiro and a true MayaDoll Male for starters, and see how they do. Oh, and FYI for any new members...take everything Veritas says with a grain of salt. He's got...well, a vivid imagination. ;) SnowS

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I did a morph set for the anime doll to make her male, but you can only do so much with morphs.

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*"Both Alexe and Neftoon Gal haven't caught on in the poser community much, for some reason.

I think Sara (original) is more popular then both, and really wonder how the new Stacie will fare."*

I just didn't find any of them particularly interesting - of the lot I like Staci best.. That's not intended as a slap at anyone... it's just an opinion. I know a lot of work went into them. Something like GIRL takes months of devoted work on just the mesh, very few poser figures get that kind of attention.

I think people are starting to see this. I hope people will start to really demand that a figure be well done, have a distinct personality and actually have strong support. Again, no offense.

"I just don't WANT to have to spend a full week on an outift that might be used on a character once. If these characters were morphs of a base character, then at least the cloths could be used from character to character."

Dynamic clothing. The technology is there it just hasn't been used and exploited. There is simply no excuse any more.

"I will agree with Garee on this point..WAY too MANY characters coming out as of late and quite frankly my wallet can only take so much."

I only buy when I can pass the cost directly on to a client these days. I am hoping the economics (many figures) will drive SOMEONE to take a chance and make good clothing. I'd gladly pay $49.00 for a good jeans/t-shirt/sweatshirt/sneakers set that used dynamic cloth to good effect.

"but have UGLY bodies"

Without getting specific it seems that the term "toon" has come to be synonymous with "thrown together fast, low poly and lumpy, featureless mesh". It's as if because it doesn't have to look real it doesn't have to look good.

Every time someone says "What is special about G.I.R.L., she's just another toon..." I want to scream "don't you see it? Like her or hate her she is alive and well done."

GIRL is good. I wanted GIRL when I first saw her. I still do. Her body is the best proportioned of the lot of the toon figures. Sara's OK from the front, but you turn her sideways and she's... GYAH. Her face is gorgeous. Her body is another matter. GIRL has a face like Sara's, but a body that is best likened to the Anime/Maya Doll in shape. A shape that is easily morphed, because you're not spending hours or days just FIXING proportions so you can morph them. That's why I never invested in Sara, and why I'll never release a morph pack for her. Her body is all wrong in every way, shape and form. Her face is fine. Her body needs a serious overhaul if there's going to be a second version. Proving that Toon doesn't=slapped together is the AnimeDoll, but she's very genre specific. Her face is perfect for all Anime styles, but she doesn't translate well into Tex Avery or Disney type women. So far, my favorite toony figure? V3. She can be morphed into toonyness very easily.

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Everybody's got their "panties" in a bunch for nothing! What?! In the Poser community?! How could such a thing happen?!?! Everyone knows that the Poser community is one of the most mature, thoughtful, and level-headed group of people on the net!!! Do I need to include a sarcasm disclaimer, or was it obvious enough? No, I'd better, just to be safe... ahem This message brought to you for the Society for the Gratuitious Use of Sarcasm. Please give generously. Thank you. bonni

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I'm SO sick of all the toon gals without any useful toon males.<< http://www.polymage.com/store/viewprod.php?catID=&prodID=96 You know, I put a lot effort into this one. Why not have a look!;) Mychelle

Neftis, I've seen him, I like him, he's just not what I'm looking for. Plus, he's pretty expensive and has very little in the way of community support. :(

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I have to agree about the support,...Altough I was thinking 18.00 is not that expensive for a figure;) It was fun creating the figures, I just don't understand why they weren't picked by the comunity...maybe it was not exactly what they needed...I suppose. But that don't stop me.I always like to create new stuff;) At least, it really IS a fun job!(little time consuming but fun) hehehe

I know what you mean, Neftis. I /love/ doing morph work. It's so rewarding, even if I don't make a lot from it. :) When did he drop to 18$? Last I checked, he was 25$.

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Bonni, I'd offer to have your baby, but I've got the wrong equipment. ;) Awww, thanks, that's sweet. ;-) (Gratutitious Monty Python reference: Perhaps you could gestate the fetus in a box?) And on other matters... Neftoon Pal is only $18 now?! Woohoo! Yes, last time I checked he was $25. :-) bonni

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Yeah - I paid $25 for him (Neftoon Pal) but I think he's a perfect 'toon' male, and was worth it to me. He complaments Sara (and the others) very well, as I've said before and will say again and again. It is sad that he hasn't caught on - but that shouldn't stop the creator of him from supporting him, for those of us who did buy him, neh? ;) As to Sara (the original), I absolutely love her body and proportions - I think they are off, yes; but then, she's not intended to be another Vicky. She's got a unique look (call it toony or whatever). And, I rather like it - long legs, arched small of the back, tucked tummy, leathal breasts - but, then, I realize I am mostly alone in my thinking she's one of the best figures available - both in style and in looks. She gets so little support as it is and even her creator and owners have all but abandoned her. Its a shame really. But, there are those that do enjoy her too and who are morphing her - so, I don't mind. As to GIRL - I really wanted her as well. Even when DAZ purchased the rights to distribute her, I wasn't immediately turned off. But, now I'm at a 'wait and see' point. Its been a very long time, and my anticipation has become ambivilience(sp).

doger also haes anna mei, for his anna figue. it is animei too.

I like Anna Mei, she's quite cute. Got a couple pictures of her in my gallery here, actually. ;) I still think Dodger should do a male to match, maybe a stand-alone that doesn't require Seth or something... bonni

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There's always Capsce's morphs packs for toon males. Here Penelope male morphs are particularly striking. I don;t think that the lack of widespread support is due to dislike of any of the new characters, as I said before. The problem is that there are way too many new characters, so you really need to pick and choose what character you make something for, as a content creator. Just about everything I've done, has been for non mainstream characters... ones I felt really needed some support. And since I've done such radical changes with them, my creations (I feel really uncomfortable calling my stuff products) have been very well received. Short term plans for me are: Complete the GIRL morphs I'm working on. (Unless I go nuts with them, like I did with Power Pixie.) Get the Neftoon Gal's Tinkerbell/morphing dress frickin out! Get the Sixus Minotaur II and Sixus Gryphon headmorphs sets out. Maybe bundle up the Neftoon Gal headmorphs I've done, and get those out somehow. Finish off the Female space set I was working on, and get it out for some character. I might see if I can make it compatible with both Neftoon Gal, and GIRL. I also have been Playing with Tomcat, and toon Puck, and might do something for his characters as well.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

"Oh, and FYI for any new members...take everything Veritas says with a grain of salt. He's got...well, a vivid imagination. ;)"

LOL, exactly. He even got more information than I have ;-).

GIRL is the cutest and nicest model I've ever seen and she poses extremly well. She still looks like before in Kim's renders. She even looks great without a texture. And she looks perfectly great in P5 rendered with the Firefly. I would love to post a pic but I am not allowed, sorry.

Oh, and Jim's clothes are really cool.

Wait until you see her, you won't be disapointed.

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A female universe? I want to make universe for my movie with people in this toon-anime style. Its hard to find figures how looks grate together. And there is a severe lack of men in this female universe. Here are lists of some female and some male (right) characters I think are possible to poos together. Sara Neftoon Pal Alexa YukiP4 p4 (Toshi) Neftoon Gal ? LaRoo Aiko Dazz Lalala Staci Aki p4 (Toshi) Aiko p4 (HandspanStudos) Maya doll (some morphs) Misaki Waiting for the GIRL and hope for a GUY. Have you some more im greateful for info. That is Anna Mei? Theyre to find? .

TG

Sorry! The tab did not work. The male charters are this. Neftoon Pal YukiP4 p4 (Toshi) .

TG

Here are 4 of the Ladies, LaRoo, Alexa, ToonGal, and Staci. I like all the toon people, and have to agree that 3dcommune has great support for Alexa,There is a freebie for her every week! What I didn't get to put in the pic, was, Capsces Characters, which are some of the greatest!, and Trixie by Sixus 1, or Sara. I don't think my poor puter would handle them all in one scene. As for the Guy toons, ToonPal is great, and Like stated above, capsces has some wonderful characters that would make great toon guys, to go with any of the gals :) Just take a look at her Boris set in the marketplace and you will see, plus all of her female sets Roxanne, etc. have male faces and bodies. Koshini Ichiro Krystal and KiKi( kiki is one of my favs) are great also, but a different type of toon

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*That is Anna Mei? Theyre to find?* Anna Mei is a morph for Dodger's "Anna" character. They're both available at Poser Pros. bonni

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click save 1st poser image of GIRL from someone other than DAZ I've seen....

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

Where, YSN? Not in this thread...

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I wonder about that too - I only got an ebot from bonni's and ynsaen's post and nothing from someone in between.

Every organisation rests upon a mountain of secrets ~ Julian Assange

Here are more people for the girls universe. First rove. Aki p4 (Toshi) Misaki Megumi for Mayadoll. Aiko (Dazz) 2nd rove. Yayoi Aiko p4 (HandspanStudos) Sara 3 Lalala

TG

My toongirls:

NEFTOONGAL
SARA ORIGINAL (the One, Sara 2 is pffffff)
MARIA FOR MAYADOLL
LALALA
STACY LRes

...and waiting for The G.I.R.L.

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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"

Lalala is SCARY.

Kreations By Khrys

Khrys, a little... but is free, and the only one female tooncharacter that admits V3 textures

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"Poser isn't a SOFTWARE... it's a RELIGION!"

I never bothered leaving installed most of the "toon" gals, so I never did a side-by-side render. The one above is interesting. I think it points things out nicely. Neftis's girl and Staci have good looks and they are ... alive? ... in a way the others aren't. In particular, Staci has a great mouth shape for her style. I'm not sure I put AnimeDoll in a the "toon" category, but I don't use her much - I can get V3 into the shapes I need for anime work. I also really like Koshini. I have used her in a few projects and while I ma not going to build a big wardrobe around her, it is a good figure. For the project I am starting I have been looking into exactly this question and I have decided to go with V3 and David for the realistic figures and G.I.R.L. as the basis for the non real figures. I can get anything else I want out of those shapes and cut down how many figures I have to support until our internally build meshes are ready.