GraphicArtist88 opened this issue on Jul 04, 2004 ยท 19 posts
GraphicArtist88 posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 9:06 AM
Hello, Does anyone know where I could find or buy 3D Files of some of Jim Henson's Muppet Characters? Thanks, Brian
GothKurlz posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 9:17 AM
I think that most modelers, and most texture people, tend to stear clear of things like these because of the large copyright that is behind them. Personally speaking I'd avoid them. but that's just me . ---Essie
xantor posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 9:47 AM
I don`t think that copyright is the problem (it would be a problem if they were sold), it is strange how there seems to be no free muppets anywhere.
FyreSpiryt posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 9:53 AM
Giving away for free does not exempt one from copyright. No all creators will pursue free content, but many will, and it is within their rights.
ShadowWind posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 10:45 AM
Probably be even more problematic now that Disney owns the Muppets.
xantor posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 11:01 AM
If the evil empire owns the muppets now, then that will be why there arent any free muppets. FyreSpiryt I know that making something free doesn
t exempt you from copyright restrictions but a lot of people copy other things with no problem ie star trek/star wars.
Lyrra posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 11:13 AM
Not all people/companies enforce their copyrights. The big Nasties are Walt Disney, McDonalds and Paramount. Ever wonder why Startrek fansites dissapear so much? Paramount kills them.
xantor posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 11:41 AM
I thought that they were okay about startrek. What copyrights do macdonalds have? not the crappy clown? You could make a better clown without copying that. Its a bit bad about the star trek fansites the program and films would be nothing without the fans.
Lyrra posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 12:53 PM
nope every year or so Paramount goes round and kills off fansites. Depends how studio management feels I guess. McDonalds .. the arches of course. back tot he original topic .. muppets are generally soft, flexible and furry. These are difficult qualities to get in many 3d programs which may explain why there aren't many aorund.
SeanMartin posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 12:53 PM
Damn, it would be fun to have Muppets that were Mimic-ready.
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nomuse posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 2:03 PM
If what you've got is a Jim Henson kick, many creatures from The Dark Crystal have been Poserized over the years. I've seen a revamped version of the Podlings quite recently, both Garthim and Striders, and I've heard rumors of Gelflings.
GraphicArtist88 posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 2:44 PM
So i am going to filter through all of that to come up with an answer of "No"? I remember a few years ago they had 3D Comic Characters like The Marvel & DC Collection.... Thanks for the replies!
Khai posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 2:58 PM
" nope every year or so Paramount goes round and kills off fansites. Depends how studio management feels I guess." just a note on that ;) anything created by ILM for Star Trek, or similar, they actually don't mind it being copied in 3D so long as the results are not sold in anyway. you can email them to check ;)
ynsaen posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 3:06 PM
Gonna chime in here and point out the glaring error that's apparent on all of the above. Although there is copyright on specific images with these figures, the issue that limits them from being made (and the Muppets are a zealously guarded property) is not copyright. Copyright does not cover likeness. The issue is trademark, which does cover likeness, and the reason the likeness is so zealously protected is because trademark, unlike copyright, can pass into common parlance and be lost. Trademarks can be licensed, however.
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maxxxmodelz posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 10:55 PM
Good observation, Ynsaen, and definitely correct. Also, a bit of digging will show that patent and trademark infringement is much more aggressively pursued than say copyrights, simply because they're usually much more expensive to attain, and can tarnish the reputation/image of an entire company if abused. I'd steer clear from any of that stuff, particularly if you intend to publish the results online (for free or not). ;-)
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estherau posted Sun, 04 July 2004 at 11:34 PM
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
x2000 posted Mon, 05 July 2004 at 8:17 AM
Attached Link: http://rendervisions.com
If you really want something, just make it yourself.:) There are several good free modeling programs out there if you can't afford a commercial package. It might seem intimidating, but it's not really that hard. And muppets aren't particularly hard to model. In fact, I made Elmo myself a while back. I even posted a five-part tutorial on the process in the Amapi forum at Rendervisions. I've never offered him as a freebie because I tend to steer clear of trademarked characters, and mostly because he's not the greatest model. He was created fast and dirty, but that was good enough for my needs. With a little fur postworked on, I think he looks pretty good.;)JohnRender posted Tue, 06 July 2004 at 4:26 PM
Attached Link: http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/143260/Action/FullPreview
Ask and ye shall find. Here's a mesh of Kermit the Frog for sale at Turbo Squid. While you're at Turbo Squid, be sure to pick up some Star Trek ships (for sale), some Star Wars characters (for sale), and some Disney characters (also for sale). These companies probably won't come after you, the customer. Heck, they don't even seem to be going after TurboSquid!GraphicArtist88 posted Tue, 06 July 2004 at 9:49 PM
Thanks... that is one ghetto a$$ Kermit! LOL