I got a copy of Bryce 4 from a freind who didn't want it anymore , but he didn't tell me that he didn't have the book. I can easily figure a lot of stuff out but one thing I am stumped at is the textures. I never bothered trying to make my own when I had bryce2 and 3, but now that I'm better at it, I want to know how to do it. If you've seen my Enterprise in the gallery, you'll see why :P