pookah69 opened this issue on Jul 19, 2004 ยท 11 posts
pookah69 posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 8:15 AM
Rather than comment on this each time I notice it in a gallery image, I thought I would address in the forum a common flaw I have recently been noticing a lot in the work of others as well as my own, and ask if others have found solutions: When a figure touches its own body, or the body of another figure, it often times does not look like firm contact is made. I think it has something to do with the lack of shadow (a shadow that should be a lot more subtle than shadow cast on a floor or wall), and perhaps the way that the surface doesn't "yield" to the pressure. Have others noticed, and created fixes for this?
EnglishBob posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 8:26 AM
I think it's to do with the way that the skin doesn't deform. This also applies when sitting on hard surfaces, for example. Looking forward to Dynamic Flesh(tm) in Poser 6. :D Possible solutions include magnets, postwork, and a combination of the two.
gillbrooks posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 8:43 AM
I notice it all the time and usually take the easy way out by correcting with a bit of burn and darken in Photoshop :)
Gill
SamTherapy posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 8:48 AM
It's also to do with the way the Poser render engine handles shadows. Badly, in other words. I wouldn't have had the problem in my last pic if I'd used Firefly but Poser choked on the render. I forgot to postwork it out when I posted the image.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
stewer posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 10:35 AM
Contact shadows - well, it's just the default settings of Poser's shadows. IMHO, the shadow bias is too high. Often, I reduce it to 0.2, sometimes 0.1. As always, adjusting the shadow lite cams will improve things a lot too.
stewer posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 11:49 AM
stewer posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 11:50 AM
stewer posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 11:55 AM
stewer posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 12:01 PM
richardson posted Mon, 19 July 2004 at 12:58 PM
There's all my suffering in a nutshell! Learned that using the 3000 practice render technique. do not recommend it...Thanks Stewer!
crocodilian posted Tue, 03 August 2004 at 2:28 PM
the reason this shadow doesn't show up right in Poser is that the chief source of the effect is what's called "ambient occlusion" -- that is, the blocking of the general ambient light as your hand approaches, say, the thigh. In order to have ambient occlusion, though, you need to have a Global Illumination solution, or fake it, either with many lights, or with the --very clever!-- settings above