hi all its done whew..nearly a month from conception to completion. Borrowed the name for the tute from one of the sites that Debbie loved..and to who's founder she spoke her final goodbye. The tutorial "Bryce-Alive" on making realistic Poser textures render straight out of Bryce is done! You can download nearly 40 textures and learn to apply them. These include totally free high resolution hair transparency textures, bump textures for the p4 model bodies and face, eyelash transparencies, and eyebrow transparencies. The tute not only shows how to apply these, but shows how to use photoshop to create your own. For those a little daunted by the Material Lab, there are Flash tutorials that actually SHOW you what you are trying to do. Watch it happen, then you'll know what button to push. This is a big tutorial...as in real BIG...but when you finish it, you will see a tremendous difference in your poser models within Bryce. http://www.brycetech.com/tutor/bryce/brycealive.html BT