SWAMP opened this issue on Aug 15, 2004 ยท 86 posts
SWAMP posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 4:37 PM
Tired of that time lag,when searching through your library folders for that perfect sword or scantly clad outfit??? Easy to fix...just unistall Quick Time player from your machine. If you really must have QT installed on you "puter" (as a friend of mine needed it for Illustrator),there is another workaround.... Delete the "Mac" plugin found in your Runtime>ImageIOPlugins folder. This goes back to the legacy coding as the original Poser was ported to Mac's and used QT for display. You don't need it...but you will see a big different in your library display. SWAMP
randym77 posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:24 PM
Interesting. Is this for Mac or PC users, or both?
ockham posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:25 PM
By George, it works! I use QT often for frame-by-frame viewing, so I can't get rid of it. As you described, I renamed the ***Mac.MRW plugin, and sure enough, things move about twice as fast!
randym77 posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:32 PM
Wow, that does make a big difference. Man, do I hate Quicktime. Once it gets its tentacles into your machine, you have to edit your registry to remove it. It constantly gives me that "qttask.exe." error message. I use it just enough to keep it around, but I'm constantly having to edit msconfig in order to keep it from automatically starting up every time I turn on the computer.
SWAMP posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:34 PM
randym77,As I'm on a PC,I can't say how it works on a Mac.
But if you are on a Mac,try it....I suspect it may be calling for an older version of QT. Edited as I see you already tried it. SWAMP
Message edited on: 08/15/2004 17:38
EnglishBob posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:34 PM
However... Poser (for Windows, anyway) needs Quicktime in order to be able to open or save to certain image file types, including GIF and PCT. If you uninstall QT, this may get broken.
Message edited on: 08/15/2004 17:37
randym77 posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:47 PM
Bob, you're right. Without the Mac plugin, GIFs, PCTs, and a bunch of other file types vanish. You can no longer import or export them from Poser.
But I think it's fair trade, for me. The file types I use most often - PSD, JPG, PNG, and TIF - all still work. For now, I will rename the Mac plugin, just in case I find I need it in the future. Losing those file types is worth the speed increase, for me. I always postwork my images, anyway, if only to adjust them for filesize vs. quality issues. So if I really need a GIF, Photoshop can do it.
ockham posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 5:51 PM
"Once it gets its tentacles into your machine, you have to edit your registry to remove it. " There really oughta be a law against installers that forcibly insert their settings into your registry. For me, the worst thing is programs that put their own defaults into the desktop-right-click mechanism, so that I have to pick from 10 different obscure kinds of documents (most of which refer to apps that I've already removed!) when trying to set up a simple shortcut.
ockham posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 6:06 PM
I'm probably deluded, but it seems that this change also makes Poser's disobedient dialog boxes work a little faster. Especially the "don't save" choice.
Traveler posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 6:07 PM
What an awesome tip! My libraries are flyin now. The loss of .pct and .gif support is really no loss at all, LOL.
NomiGraphics posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 6:12 PM
Wow! I must say this is excellent advice! I just changed the file from ImageIO_Mac.mrw to ImageIO_Mactemp.mrw and now my folders are screaming! Amazing how legacy code like this sticks around a program. - Noel
SWAMP posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 6:19 PM
Well yes,if you rename or delete the plugin,you do lose GIF and PCT...but that's not too big a deal, as you can still convert/play/etc. outside of Poser. "Once it gets its tentacles into your machine, you have to edit your registry to remove it. " I hear you... While there are dozens of registry cleaners/editors out....."Registry First Aid" is miles ahead of all of them. It really will find EVERY unwanted registry entry.
cappy3 posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 6:34 PM
Awesome tip SWAMP!! Just deleted that file, and now my libraries are 5x faster...Thanks for the tip!!
estherau posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 7:27 PM
Hi, I have a mac computer. I also have quicktime but I can't seem to find that file anywhere on my computer. Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
layingback posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 7:54 PM
Wow! Cool tip. Probably will not find this file on a Mac - it wouldn't be needed as the MacOS can handle pict and gif file types natively. Suspect MetaCreations just included this in the Windows version as the lazy way out (rather than implementing pict & gif support in the Poser code).
Farside posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 8:09 PM
Thanks :)
buddy36s posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 8:28 PM
Excellent tip.
Crescent posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 8:52 PM
I think I'll just bow at your feet now ...
jelisa posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 9:13 PM
I just did the rename on that plugin file and it took Poser 5 about 2 minutes to open rather than the approximately 7 to 10 minutes that it used to take. That alone makes this a good thing.
Jim Burton posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 9:28 PM
Am I missing something here? My Libraries have always opened in a second or so, even back when I had a P4 on a Pentium 200. P5 also opens in about 10 seconds on my current 2.8 Pentium 4, might even be faster than P4. Maybe you guys just need faster computers... ;-) I do get a HUGE delay when it can't find a texture file and I tell it to stop looking, though.
capsces posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 9:40 PM
Ooo, now that is a gem! :) Beth
wyrwulf posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 9:52 PM
I just tried it, and it didn't seem to make a difference with Poser4 on an AMD 1800 plus.
jelisa posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 10:02 PM
Jim, I have a 2.6 GHz P4 with 1 GB RAM and P5 has always taken forever to open on it. Your computer must like you or something :P
segart posted Sun, 15 August 2004 at 11:23 PM
It works! Thanks a lot! :D
Roy G posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 12:35 AM
It works Great!!
Makes a big difference for those larger folders.
Started converting file formats already. No more gif's for me.
KarenJ posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 12:35 AM
Jim, I have noticed that the size of the Runtime folder makes a lot of difference. If I open my "P5 Lights" runtime, at a mere 132mb, and then click between the library palettes, it's always been very fast, practically no delay. However, my V3 runtime, at a shade under 3gb, has always bogged the program down. This tip does seem to have improved the reaction speed by about 50% on my machine. I'm on Win XP, Athlon 2.4gb CPU with a gig of DDR RAM.
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noboundariez posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 2:37 AM
ahh. thank you SO much SWAMP! it really works!! deleted just the MAC plugin instead of uninstall QT! WOW feel like x5 faster than b4! Cheers
CandeeKis posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 2:40 AM
I have a HUGE runtime and this really made a difference. I didnt notice (maybe I missed it) whether this works for both Poser 4 and 5??
estherau posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 2:54 AM
I've found these things in my poser 4 and 5 runtimes. I'm on a amc computer. what do you think? ImageIO_Mac_M.mrw Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
noboundariez posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 3:26 AM
i couldnt resist ; ) sorry for my 2nd post but i have to say IT WORKS! THANK YOU SWAMP FOR THIS AWESOME TIP! yay 8-)
CraigMunden posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 3:59 AM
Thanks for the advice - big increase in speed here too! Craig
hauksdottir posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 4:33 AM
I think this should go in the FAQ!
semidieu posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 4:33 AM
Thanks a lot !!!!
modus0 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 4:53 AM
I've got P5 on an external hard-drive, with most of my content in external runtime folders on the same drive, and noticed an annoying lag when doing anything in those runtimes. However, I renamed that file, and have experienced a marked decrease in the amount of time it take to switch between runtimes and load things from those runtimes. Thanks much.
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randym77 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 5:48 AM
I've found these things in my poser 4 and 5 runtimes. I'm on a amc computer. what do you think?
ImageIO_Mac_M.mrw
Try renaming it, and see what happens. I'm curious about whether this tip works for Macs, too. If the Mac version really needs the file, you can always name it back.
I, too, find that dumping this file really speeds things up. I think it is related to the size of the runtime, and I guess mine are kind of bloated. It's noticeably faster, navigating around the library.
estherau posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 5:55 AM
I'm scared. Pull yourself together girl! Okay, I'm going in. Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
disneyfabfive posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 6:02 AM
Wow works great. For anyone who wants to get rid of that qttask.exe, there is a little freeware program called hijackthis. It will get rid of it for you and it won't come back. http://s89223352.onlinehome.us/mirror/hjt/ This is the link for it. It should help you with your problem I have used it and gotten rid of different things and they haven't come back. Beth
estherau posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 6:06 AM
Hi, I just renamed the file ImageIO_Mac_M.mrw to renamed_ImageIO_Mac_M.mrw on my apple mac G4 and I think it is very much faster switching between libraries eg pose to cameras to figures etc. Unless it's my imagination. Well I'll be darned. Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
randym77 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 6:12 AM
Thanks for the report. Sounds like it's safe and effective for Apple users, too!
Any other Worms out there want to try it, and see if it's Esther's imagination or not? ;-)
stewer posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 6:49 AM
Sweet. While modularity is a good thing (why reinvent the wheel when there are already libraries that can do it for you), it looks like there must be something wrong with QT itself to make it that slow. Thanks for the tip! Rendering Quicktime movies is still working here (P5 on OS X), so just living without image formats I never use anyway is a small price to pay :)
Francemi posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 7:46 AM
I just tried it and my libraries open faster but Poser itself does not launch faster. France
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jade_nyc posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 9:23 AM
Thanks!
linwhite posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 9:43 AM
Poser launches faster and so do my bulkiest folders. This should be "Tip of the Year". Many thanks for this timesaver. I usually go and do several other things while Poser is launching, sometimes it's still not open when I come back.....this will be a life saver and I can add some files I've been keeping in a dummy runtime. Eureka!!! YOU found it!!!
Francemi posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 10:03 AM
Do you think it would speed things up even more if we were to rename other extension plugins like FPX, TGA, TIFF? And should we rename also the file Messages_Mac.txt and other corresponding text files in the same folder? I only use PNG and JPG so I would not mind not having the rest of the extension plugins if it would make Poser work faster. France
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Tashar59 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 11:04 AM
Before I try this. Has it effected Bryce? I only installed QT to get Bryce to read PNG's. I still need Bryce to read all the image formats.
EnglishBob posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 11:14 AM
If you go the alternative route of renaming Poser's ***Mac.MRW plugin, Quicktime can stay installed and so Bryce will be unaffected.
Jim Burton posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 11:21 AM
Yeah, that is probably it, I don't have much in my P5 runtime, I use it mostly for testing and I tend to delete the stuff when I'm finished.
Tashar59 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 11:31 AM
Thanks,I give it a try.
PJF posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 1:29 PM
Is this tip for Poser5 only? My Poser4 libraries have always opened quickly, and there is a file named "ImageIO_Mac.mrw" in my ImageIOPlugins folder. Removing or renaming this file makes no difference - the libraries still open quickly. I have Quicktime6.1 installed. Maybe my 8GB Runtime counts as tiny nowadays? Glad so many benefitted from the tip. Good catch SWAMP.
maclean posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 2:25 PM
Obviously this is an excellent tip, and it seems to make a difference for a lot of people. But I have to agree with Jim Burton. Both Poser 4 and 5 have always opened quickly on my machine (10secs and 30 secs respectively), and I've never had any problem with slow libraries. I have a similar machine to Jim's (P4 2.6/512RAM) and I also have a pretty small Runtime. I keep al the spare Runtime stuff elsewhere. I've never had Quicktime or any other unneccessary apps installed. If I don't need it, I don't install it. Simple as that. mac
maclean posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 2:28 PM
Re-reading my post, something occurred to me. Poser 4 opened quickly on my old machine too, and it was an 800 Mhz junkheap. I don't think power is a factor with Poser. I've always kept a very slim Runtime, and I'm sure that's what makes the difference. mac
Laver2k posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 3:04 PM
Just wondering, did anyone see if this worked for PCs?
PJF posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 4:08 PM
Er, yes, SWAMP did (see post 5).
Nance posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 5:15 PM
Swamp, did I miss a post where it said how you might have made the connection and stumbled onto this bit of wisdom in the first place? Just curious. And do any other formats stop working other than .GIF and .PSD (and .MOV I presume)? Sorry, long thread and may have skimmed past that info.
randym77 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 5:26 PM
PSD still works. It's the Mac formats, like PCT, that go bye-bye. It doesn't seem to affect the ability to render Quicktime movies. You could try renaming the file. If it breaks something you use, just name it back.
Jackson posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 7:49 PM
Odd...simply renaming the file didn't seem to do anything for me. But then I moved it out to a different directory and WHOA what a difference! Thanks SWAMP! This is the first tip that actually sped P5 up for me.
randym77 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 7:55 PM
I did have to get out of Poser and back in again before I noticed any speed increase. (I had Poser open when I renamed the file.)
Jackson posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 7:57 PM
I didn't.
alt1701 posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 8:35 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO! THANK YOU!
xoconostle posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 9:49 PM
Big thanks, SWAMP. Definitely worked for me.
Momcat posted Mon, 16 August 2004 at 11:45 PM
Amazing! I've gone from almost a minute between library changes to only a few seconds. Thank you so much!
soulhuntre posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 12:30 AM
Great tip. All I had to do was rename the extension and BLAMMO - faster.
cooler posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 2:00 AM
howdy folks,
I tried the "fix" & it definetly speeds up library loads (thanx swamp :-). However while it's true that GIF files no longer work on models (although I can import a GIF as a background pic), I must have a weird version of Poser because pct files (reflection maps) still show up in the menus, load, & render just fine. addendum: GIFs still work as transmaps, just not as tex/bum maps
Message edited on: 08/17/2004 02:08
Momcat posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 2:06 AM
pct files are mac image extensions. Most reflection maps are plain
ol' jpegs >^_^
cooler posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 2:12 AM
Momcat, the default Poser 4 reflection maps are SilverRefl.pct & GoldRefl.pct (I don't know if it's the same in P5 though)
SWAMP posted Tue, 17 August 2004 at 2:37 AM
The reflection maps are .pct in both P4 and P5,and can't be opened (if you went the renamed plugin route). Just open them in any image editor,and save back to .jpg or .tif ,then your all set. Note:DON'T try to rename them (or any image file) by hand...you'll really screw them up. Have fun,SWAMP
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PabloS posted Wed, 18 August 2004 at 1:15 AM
Just noticed something else in that folder. The "Messages_JPG.txt" file. Edit out the crazy jpg resolutions you never use. (Like who in their right mind wants to save at 25%)
MungoPark posted Wed, 18 August 2004 at 5:07 AM
If you follow this advice, you have a high chance that some of your pz3 files which use the imageio plugin wont open anymore - happened to me after renaming it.
FishNose posted Thu, 19 August 2004 at 5:52 AM
Wow... this is some tip. I renamed the Mac file, didn't touch QT. My Poser start is unchanged, over 2 minutes (HUGE Runtime) but: My Libraries list opening time has gone from as much as 15 seconds to - ZERO!! Instant. Amazing. Thanks! :] Fish
Bobbie_Boucher posted Mon, 03 January 2005 at 3:33 PM
I found this issue entirely confusing. I thought at one time that Poser 5 was supposed to be written from scratch, and that we wouldn't get any of that crappy Poser 4 code. Or at least, I thought we wouldn't get any Mac code since there is Mac version of Poser 5!? I renamed the file in question, and it doesn't seem to have affected the loading time. But then I use external Runtimes anyway.
SWAMP posted Mon, 03 January 2005 at 3:56 PM
Well Bobbie,you stated in another thread that you don't have QT installed. If you don't have QT installed renaming the plugin isn't going to do anything for you. I'm like you and prefer not to have QT at all (I find it a very intrusive program)......renaming the plugin is for people that can't live without QT. As for Poser5's code not being rewritten as CL promised....well that's pretty old news now. SWAMP
Bobbie_Boucher posted Mon, 03 January 2005 at 4:56 PM
OH! I see. Maybe Poser 6 or Poser 7 will be a total re-write? I will hold off on any future Poser purchases till they do the real rewrite.
Marque posted Tue, 20 September 2005 at 12:11 AM
Awesome tip, my runtimes are huge and this really speeded them up. Using poser 6 at the time. Thanks, Marque
Tashar59 posted Tue, 20 September 2005 at 12:40 AM
Marque, A quick note, If you have Bryce, you need QT to have it work right.
jelisa posted Tue, 20 September 2005 at 11:15 AM
At first this sped up how long it took Poser 6 to open, but now, P6 takes about 10-15 minutes to open up on my machine. My sister has been using it to rig a figure she modeled, but other than that, I've been using DS since it only takes a few seconds to load.
randym77 posted Tue, 20 September 2005 at 7:17 PM
I haven't tried this trick with P6, because it opens a lot faster than P5 anyway.
The size of the runtime makes a big difference with Poser. Switching to multiple runtimes and moving them outside the Poser folder really sped things up for me.
bagoas posted Tue, 27 September 2005 at 4:40 PM
Great tip! Opening libraries is much faster! Starting is faster too.
Jim Burton posted Tue, 27 September 2005 at 9:09 PM
Gee, 10-15 MINUTES? Poser 6 takes about 13 seconds to start on my machine. DAZ Studio (a beta version) takes about 4 seconds.
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Acadia posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 3:46 AM
What's Quick Time? I've never heard of it. I've never noticed a lag in my library/thumbnails opening.
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Acadia posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 3:49 AM
Quote - Jim, I have a 2.6 GHz P4 with 1 GB RAM and P5 has always taken forever to open on it. Your computer must like you or something :P
Sounds like you need to look into multiple runtimes. When I had all of my files in the main Poser runtime, it took forever to open Poser. Now I have many, many runtimes and Poser takes less than 1 minute to open, probably less.
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jelisa posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 10:48 AM
Actually, I do have several runtimes, about 12 of them.
Acadia posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 6:20 PM
The larger your runtime the longer it takes to open Poser. Try creating an empty runtime and have that as your active runtime when you log out of Poser. When you open Poser it shouldn't take very long to open.
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lmckenzie posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 6:22 PM
Quicktime is an Apple originated multimedia system which handles AFAIK video (.mov), images and audio as well. "Just noticed something else in that folder. The "Messages_JPG.txt" file. Edit out the crazy jpg resolutions you never use. (Like who in their right mind wants to save at 25%)" Not good in P4 at least. I tried that idea earlier and ended up with crappy .jpg images. Turns out the thing is apparently position based - position 1 is 25% so even if you remove all but 100%, that's now position 1 on the menu but 25% is still what you get.
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randym77 posted Wed, 21 December 2005 at 6:27 PM
I've heard you can still render movies in Quicktime, even if you rename that file. But I wouldn't know. Quicktime won't run on my machine, with or without Poser.