Armorbeast opened this issue on Sep 11, 2004 ยท 66 posts
Armorbeast posted Sat, 11 September 2004 at 8:48 PM
Let me begin this by saying that I have been an avid anti spammer ever since I came online...I am bombarded by spam and even if hundreds of spam emails are caught by my server spam filter and blocked senders list,dozens slip through every day!So before I get started,understand that I am totally anti spam ok!! I own a site called Dreamslayerartworks.com which I found out was blacklisted by spamcop,a little site with grand ambitions of making the net safe for fascism everywhere!!!To begin,my site is non commercial and the only emails sent out are ebots notifying members of forum comments and and pm's...so how we got on a blacklist for spamming bewildered me because if members don't want the ebots they can make a change in their profile to stop them!What I was told shocked the living hell out of me as it seems I can be totally innocent,all it takes is an accusation and they even say they don't need that...they can blacklist me for having the letter "a" in my domain name!!They don't need to verify that the claim is factual,they aren't responsible for their actions and they aren't required to remove you from their blacklist even when they find out you are innocent!!If you share a server with up to a hundred other sites it doesn't matter,if even one of those sites is accused of spamming they can blacklist every site on that server!!Their reasoning is that they are trying to pressure the server hosts to do more to stop spamming even though spamming isn't illegal and they have no legal reason to do what "spamcop" wants as long as the activity is lawful...they can be sued by the site owner and spamcop doesn't care. The idea here is simple,persecute the innocent with the guilty to force the innocent to put pressure on their server host to act...but again,they don't need proof that anyone has even committed a crime,just an accusation!!To me this was mind blowing and even if I missed a few finer points because I was throughly pissed,I've had several people check the spamcop forum thread and all were shocked to see their response...in the end,their suggestion was to have my host change my sites email server,I do not see the reason why based on what they say because just one report of a spammer on the new server can get us blacklisted again and we'll be just as innocent!!! We are talking about an organization established to combat spam people...not to establish some totalitarian dream for a little goose stepper who wants the power to nail anyone he pleases because he has the power to do so!!!As an avid anti spammer myself,I am totally opposed to this way of thinking to stop spam and if you want the freedom to surf sites online you better pay attention to this issue as for my site it doesn't impact me at all...it impacts the members,they are the victims here not myself!The ebots are a convenience only and being blacklisted in this regard would be a pathetic joke if it weren't for the petty little minds behind the site that did this!!So,if you use spamcop or some other service to help filter out the junk you don't want,remember...these jackasses could also be blocking sites you want to recieve email from or if you're a site owner,they could block you from reaching your members!!You and only you have the right to decide who you recieve email from~no one has the right to make that decision for you unless you ask...and if you ask,they should still be required to act with consideration to law and ethics!! So if you're not recieving email from sites you expect email from,chances are they've been blacklisted and these "vigilantees" aren't required to tell you or even the sites themselves that they've been blacklisted...I remain anti spam but if this is the only way to combat it,I'd rather trust my server hosts spam filter and my blocked senders list so that at least the power to decide remains in my hands~not some fascist McCarthyistic blacklist that harms the innocent more than the guilty! These are my opinions~but you are free to post your own pro or against views!
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