Twice now I have used the save for web option and the thumbnail didn't work and the image was of horrible quality. I can't figure out what I am doing to make it do this and I don't know what I am doing to fix it. I can't figure out how to save a thumbnail differently without sacrificing incredible quality and still having a large file size(it says a 9kb thumb @ 3 quality but it looks like crap and is actually 20kb). The save for web option works really well except I don't like the hyphens my thumbnails don't work. Please tell me how to do it right. I posted this here because I knew I would get a much quicker response than the photoshop forum and many of you use it anyway.

as far as i know, you can't use the Photoshop feature to attach a thumbnail, just crop the image down yourself and save it as a seperate file.

Um, what hyphens? Are you accidentally saving ImageReady slices? IIRC, they do tend to be bigger than your regular jpgs. As Slakker says, crop down (marquee select -> Alt+I -> P) and then press Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S to do the ordinary save for the web.

-- erlik

Yeah, that's what I do - you need to make two versions of your image, one full-sized and one thumbnail (or crop the larger one to suit). Then save them separately using Save for Web.

I do have seperate files for the thumbnail and the big image. When I hit save in the save for web window it brings up the little box thing and even if I manually remove the hyphens it adds them back in anyways. I went through all the settings I could find and made sure there weren't supposed to be hyphens for spaces.

save for web... check the quality of the image..on the right hand side..see what you have set it as.. set to 100, jpeg.. best quality. will be a bit bigger than if you save it at 75 quality..but better. What hyphens? used it often... never had that probs

these are the hyphens I am talking about. Notice the bmp file name.

Message edited on: 10/19/2004 23:27

when I take them out and hit save I get this.

I checked and it's the default for ImageReady, which is apparently the transfer point for the Web images. That is, the files for the Internet should not have empty spaces, so the program inserts hyphens. I always use either compact names or underscores when saving for the web, so I never encountered it before. You can also go to IR, on the File menu open File Saving and tell it to put in the underscores or spaces. But since the server will just have to put the space symbol in, it's better for you to decide how the name will look. I still don't understand why the thumbnails behave like they do. Are you saving in full dimensions?

-- erlik

I've seen this conversation here before - Image Ready bloats the file. If you use PhotoShop instead of Image Ready it works out better. As I mentioned above, I save my 'big' image, then reduce the size to thumbnail size as in attached pic.

Then save the thumbnail using Save for Web, and rename it, adding _thumb to the name of the new file. Forgot to say that I use Save for Web for the big image as well. Usually set at 60 quality.

and here's the thumbnail

The guys in the photoshop forum said IR is better with jpegs. I was looking around in photoshop and the example file name doesn't have any hyphens but it says myfile(space)(insert something not the filename).jpg but not my(space)file(space)whatever.jpg. That should be an easy habit to get into. My thumbnail procedure is: do whatever I need to the original resize to 200x150 Save for Web Sometimes I have problems. sometimes I don't. I will keep trying.