Question: How much are Poser operations affected by the amount of memory in our computers? Sure, we have all heard that more is better, but before I spend money on adding more memory, I want to know how much is enough. So, I am running a poll. Its EASY to participate and the results will be posted here so we can all benefit. To join in, just answer these two questions:

1. How much memory do you have on your computer? (Enter an A-F)

A) 256MB or less
B) 512MB
C) 1GB
D) 2GB
E) More than 2GB
F) Other: specify amount

2. Then select one of the two choice below:

YES, I am satisfied that the amount of memory I have is enough. Poser appears to operate satisfactorily.

NO, The memory in my computer does not appear adequate. Poser does not seem to operate as fast or as well as I think it should.

This wont take much of your time to complete. All you have to enter in your reply is something like:
A NO or E YES.

Please consider participating because the larger the sample size, the better the results will be for all of us. Ill tally the data and report the outcome here.

(Yes, I know this is a subjective study and that there are other factors involved like processor speed, hard drive seek rate, OS, etc; however, in this brief poll I am only looking for a connection between the amount of memory people in their machines have and their overall satisfaction with Posers performance.)

Thank you in advance for taking part in the poll.

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(also running as well as Poser, Photoshop, trueSpace, Winamp, Pirch, MSN Messenger, UVMapper, Outlook Express, Firefox (multiple windows) and notepad... whats the fuss about Ram?) Yes.

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C No.

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B yes but if anyone has spare, I'd love to have some

B Aye And, um, me too on the ram!

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C No :-)

B yes

E yes

C No

B Yes

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I have a pentium 4 with 1 gig of RAM and Poser works just fine -- though I have been known to screw it up. Also got a ton of other stuff on there too, mostly graphics programs. Probably oughta get rid of some of it but I'm a packrat, never know what I "might need some day".

D No

E Yes Since Poser (or any other process) won't use more than 2GB, it doesn't matter. Anything beyond that is SwapFile or, in the case of Adobe, disk-cache.

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C No (P4)

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D Yes (OSX) C Yes (WinXP)

A - no (PC) F - yes (Mac) 896MB

C Yes

1.C 2.Yes (propack) PC win2K

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1: C 2: Yes. Although I've noticed that my processor maxes out before memory during a render.

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E yes and no...Poser runs fine at the moment, but can never have enough in my opinion! LOL

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1: F 640 MB

2: yes, most of the time it is enough, but I never get into doing those really complicated renders (with 5 v3's and 14 M3s, and a herd of Millennium Horses ) that some of the people in here do.

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C Yes

B) 512MB A NO than again I am running windows me

Right now it is C)1 GByte of memory. Yes, I am satisfied, Poser works great now. Before I had B) 512 Mbyte and Poser ran like crap on my computer, lots of crashes and lock-up. The extra memory made a world of difference.

F- 480MB No - could use more RAM, but right now I'm still waiting for my apps to come through so I have no dinero to get it.

not trying to hijack the thread, but would it be possible to add in Virtual memory settings, as well?

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1. M. 2) I like apples.

I went back to letting Windows (XP Pro) decide on how much Virtual memory it needs, i.e the System managed size radio button is clicked, and that also seems to make Poser run better.

d. Poser is the worst-written OS X app I have. It would be dog-slow and as unstable as a pet coon, whether I have 2GB or 2,000 GB. It has to be rewritten from the ground up, by people who don't have problems dealing with Apple. By slow, I mean it renders very fast, but trying to change the dials or select groups can become as slow as molasses.

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A-Sometimes. Hires Textures on a single V-3 make me wish for more.

B - Yes. No problems at all.

A Yes (But I don't use hi-res models like V3, or try to do huge renders. Mainly use Posette and Misaki, and only do animation.)

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B Absolutely (P5 on Win2kPro)

E: 640 Mb Yes. I'd also like to note that some aspects of rendering are actually more CPU dependent than memory dependent, so that's a factor in rendering speed sometimes more than available memory. And yes, I'd like more memory. It's a good thing to have a lot of that to play with. ;-) bonni

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C No- P5

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This one is atypical A - Yes And I use Vicky 3! The secret: Windows 95 (the fastest Windows)

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B Most of the time-P5, Lightwave, Vue Can't upgrade mine very well. Takes the old 800 RAMBUS that is very expensive these days. Will probably have to replace the motherboard before upgrading.

C Yes

B yes (but more is always better) WinXP Home, SP2. P5.

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A And...um. I'm having computer problems related to Poser (and a couple of other programs but it's worse with Poser), but I'm not convinced the memory is the cause. Might be related, though. Win XP home, SP2. Poser 5.

E

D
Yes - no problems.

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B Yes (Poser 4) No (Poser 5)

You never have enough of something ! I begann rendering when computers still had 64KB Ram and 16 colors. Do you think I am happy now ? No. It is still to slow. My harddisk is full of the wonderfull stuff you people did and I wonder what system I may need when Poser6 comes out.

C
Yes
Both PP & PP
However with more than 2 Millenium 3 characters with lots of clothes, hair and complex set it is necessary to composite pics in a 2D program.

Message edited on: 11/02/2004 06:35

B No.

C Yes (P4)

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F: 1.12GB No.

A Mostly okay (using P4PP on W98). I don't use Mill 3 characters.

D No

C Yes My processor (P4 2.2GHz) tops out before my RAM when rendering so more would not help in that regard. Doesn't mean I don't want more though :P And I suspect the more I have the more figures I will be able to load into a scene without problems.

D Yes

C - NO

A No I wanted to put: A hell no

C Yes

A No I have problems with high-rez Textures and millennium figures. But this PC is twice as fast as an older one that has twice the memory. So given the option, I would take processor speed.

C P5-NO P4/PP-Yes

C - yes Poser5 - Just got the Mover/Vue bundle... TRYING to learn. Seems comlicated. I have big dreams / plans... but it seems so complicated to get started.

F 1.5GB Yes

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D Yes

640 MB (not one of your options). No it is not enough, but then I also need a "real" Athlon CPU, rather than a Duron.

B P5 : yes 3dsmax6 : no

1. F - 384MB (the maximum my computer can have) 2. It works for me!

B No Okay for setup but causes virtual memory to adjust when rendering FF and HiRes figures/texture

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Results of the How much memory is enough poll.

Sample Size: 57

Percent Satisfied with Poser Performance (Ascending Order):

256MB or less--- 50% N = 9
1GB -------------62% 21
2 GB ------------67% 6
512MB -----------72% 18
Over 2GB -------100% 3

Comments:

• Several people mentioned that P5 needs more memory to perform satisfactorily than P4/PP.

• Individuals who were satisfied with less than 512MB often mentioned that they did not use hi-res figures like the millennium characters, or at least they kept the number of characters and other items low. This probably contributes to the higher than expected level of satisfaction among owners of machines with lower memory configurations.

• Just 65% of the respondents in all the categories were satisfied with the level of performance they were experiencing. Of course, there are many other factors that contribute to performance such as processor speed, platform, OS, version of Poser being used, and others.

*Some people mentioned their experience using other memory intensive applications like TrueSpace (OK at 512MB) and 3DSMax (not OK at 512MB).

Conclusion:

It is no surprise that Poser, especially P5, seems to work best with plenty of memory. However, the sweet spot for most participants seems to be between 512MB and 1GB. Obviously, if one wishes to run many other applications at the same time, more memory will be necessary. However, it appears that computers possessing memory within this range may be sufficient for most users.

Thank you to all those who participated in this poll.

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