Two more questions: I have 1 gig Ram, P4 2.6 processor and Nvidia FX5900 video card. Not a bad system and everything else works pretty fast. I wonder what "average" render times should be expected in Poser 4. If I have two characters and a room/scene prop loaded, plus clothes, my render times are extremely long. 2-3 minutes. After the render Poser takes ages to revert back to user-control mode, Sometimes over a minute. Is this normal, and if not what should I do to optimise my system to speed things up. Secondly: I notice the above typical scene, saved to a pz3 creates a gigantic file. Some of them are 130 Megabytes! Is this normal and if not, what can I do to cut these enormous files down to a manageable size? Thanks in anticipation. Leonardis