ok..so I dwnloaded Wings today..and tried it. At first..was looking at a blank screen with screens that did not look like bryce..so had no idea what I had to do. accidently right clicked...and then..my brains slowly worked. A bit. I have no idea what i did or what happened ..all i know is that I came up with some spiky stuff.. when i actually started with a torus. I HATE cubism.. I'm getting second thoughts on this.. Wings easy?? damn..I'm coming up with strange spaceships! Oh..the mat wasn't anything much..just needed to show it here..so used the first one I cld grab frm the mat thingumy. Stop laffing..you pple. here..i offer you a box of tissues to wipe the tears from your eyes.

and to think I rubbed my hands,licked my lips in anticipation while downloading Wings!!Sheesh...

There are a couple Wings TUTs in the tutrial section on the main header. I'm not that good with it either, drac & pauljs75 are very handy with it. Guess it takes some time and practice.

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Drac and pauljs75 both have tutes here at 'Rosity that are pretty good, too. Unfortunately, you kind of have to read the manual (which is slightly out of date). Keep trying!

:-D hey this looks alot like my first attempts! Don't worry this is very normal unless of course I'm not normal which is debateable. But its fun isn't it! Welcome to the other side.

Don't know about anyone else, but I was creating spikey cubes and spheres for ages and then had an epiphany (after asking a few questions in the wings forum and checking a tut) and it kinda clicked. Still have to get away from a Bryce mindset though.

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pauljs75 trys to corellate the abstracted shape to the supposed torus it came from. Hmmm... I suppose it could be done... What did you do? Intrude it? Taking a look at a few manual pages couldn't hurt. Even though it's a bit dated in listing features, the main workflow of the program remains the same. It would be better to start there than with my tutorials, since they are better suited to those who understand what the commands do. Once you've experimented long enough (about a week) to figure out what the commands do, then you can start to work on learning various techniques and principles of polygon modeling. And this is where my tutorials come in handy. Sure vertices, normals, and the like sound like gobbledygook right now, but soon enough you'll be speaking the language. And don't consider using Wings abandoning Bryce. Think of it as something that complements it. Afterall you still need a decent Renderer, and there aren't others that are as easy to use as Bryce. (Sure there are better ones, but getting 'em to work decently is like learning a whole other language and calculus all at the same time.)

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yeah, it complements bryce. and as for things that you can do, read some tuts to get used to the interface. as well, try your hand with simple shapes like a cube and simple face commands like inset, bevel, bump and extrude :)

forget about edges and points, those are for later

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Cool, it looks like an abstract hi-tech pterodactyl! I can heartily recommend Drac's spaceship tut. It familiarizes you with all the basic face commands.

I had a blast doing the doghouse tutorial that comes with Wings. I actually find navigate in Wings easier and faster than Bryce. It does stuff you couldn't accomplish in Bryce which makes it, like photoshop and poser, a nice support App for Bryce. That's my perspective anyway.

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I'm really liking wings. It's helping me now that I'm getting into the mindset of not using loads of primitives. (Thanks Drac) This little space ship started as just a single cube (as you can see from the geometry graph). Already I find myself hitting the middle mouse button in Bryce to spin around an object. DOH!

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i did an very easy starting tut on doing a boudoir. its a one picture afair so easy to safe and look at

for some free stuff i made
and for almost daily fotos

Drac and I have a coupla beginner tuts, that get you started on how to do commands (I must admit, though, that I'm still at the intermediate stage, while Drac's breezed onto the rj001, ornlu, orbital 'advanced' stage of model-making..;) They're in the Wings tutorial section here. It does bake your noodle for awhile, until you get some of the tricks down. I can make a bad model of almost anything now..;)

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Aye, Erosia, that's about as far as I got in Wings, too! Once I started to learn Rhino, the other modelers (Amapi, Truespace, Amorphium, Wings, etc.) just didn't make any sense to me. Good luck to you, don't get discouraged, a few quick tutorials and you'll be making awesome stuff in no time!

Ang..all creative pple are pretty different..which makes us so special.. :-) Thanks a lot guys..will keep trying..and will go thru the tuts.. I really want to learn how to create my own stuff..if not spaceships..but abstract shapes..or otherwise. Will give the wings chaps a shout on the IM everytime I get stuck. Which may be often..be patient with me.. Pauljs..I have no idea what I did to it..I mirrored, extruded, compressed, squished, mushed, pulled it at different points. Never seen a torus act so weird. Feels like you working on dough... will post a few better models later on..

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Looks like you distorted the mesh more than it could deal with - if the sides of a poly get too far out of line you get holes in the mesh, where the edge just can't manage the transition from one point to another (that's how I think of it, anyway). If you get a hole in the mesh, you can fix it usually by zooming in very close and splitting the edge next to the empty space. Hope I haven't confused you more.....

I've only been using SILO for a couple of weeks (worktime)But this stuff sort of grows on you. (BTW I got a dispensation...LOL)

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POG!!!!! I can't find my head.. think it went floating somewhere between "the transition " and "splitting the edge next to the empty space" :-) I'm trying different things..sorta feeling it..getting to know it.. nothing near to good as yet..but yes, the bryster..one can get addicted to it..feels like you actually making something out of nothing.. and imagination can grow wild. I'll be haunting the tuts within the next few days.. lemme play around..figure out what me landed up meself into. Bless you pple for being so encouraging...

You damned talented people are going to scare her off! Take heart, erosia, I'm still figuring it out. We'll get there!!