bjergtrold opened this issue on Nov 28, 2004 ยท 23 posts
bjergtrold posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 1:08 PM
I'm searching for a male manga/anime character. There are some surgical morphs to transform females into males, but those have next to no support or addons.
Is anyone working on an original manga male figure, which might generate some support from other vendors?
You know what is right for you. I know what is right for me.
TygerCub posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 1:36 PM
I tried making a dude for the Anime Doll. The laughable results are plainly not worth pursuing.
Somebody?? Anybody with better modeling skills??? Please? Pretty please with sugar and icecream and even a juicy delicious cherry on top?!? I'm willing to -~>$ PAY $<~- good money for good male manga (er... that didn't sound quite right - but you get the idea).
Azrael00023 posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 4:57 PM
Yeah I hear ya, Ive been dying for a decent male anime doll :( I wish there was one :(
libernull posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 5:44 PM
Personally, I think the way to go is to use Crescent's pop-top tutorial and put either AD or A3 head on either M3 or David's body. That way, you have the support options for clothing and an anime head with which to morph into a more male looking figure. I reworked David's neck to line the seams up with the head, however, I am having difficulties loading the new pop-top A3/David hybrid.
FlyByNight posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 6:00 PM
Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=30302
You might like to check out Momcat and Firebirdz' Decker for David.FlyByNight
TygerCub posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 6:02 PM
Crescent posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 7:19 PM
I exported Aiko's head with the default settings, then applied the head as a morph target for David, then used Xena's magnet set and it worked great. http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=2022093 It's a lot easier than my Pop Top method since David's and Aiko's heads have the same number of vertices and mapping. Cheers!
libernull posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 8:34 PM
ooooo - Crescent! Thanks for the link. Much easier than the poptop. But, what about A3's expressive morphs? Just use MM to delete David's original and copy A3's over?
Dale B posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 9:25 PM
You might want to check out the Bishonen packs over at DAZ. They allow you to morph both face and body to get the anime look. Well worth it, and careful texturing can create the guy your girl is looking for...
Crescent posted Sun, 28 November 2004 at 9:44 PM
That's what I did libernull, and it worked quite well. Dale B - I do like the Bishonen pack as well, but I like the expressions I can get with Aiko - they work really well for what I need. The Bishonen pack is worth it just for the textures, even if you Aiko-ize David. Cheers!
Kalypso posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 1:04 AM Online Now! Site Admin
TygerCub, I had the same exact problem and a kind soul - Sharen from Sams3D - took pity and gave me a workaround to the problem you're having. When you try to select or deselect and find that you can't just open the date and time properties box and then with that open try again and it will work! At least it does for Sharen and me, both in Poser 4 and Poser 5. I have no idea why :)
pdxjims posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 1:18 AM
You can also use morph manager to copy the Aiko 3 Stylized morph over to David. Gives an interesting look. I've got the Bishohen morphs converted to David too, and use them in combination.
bjergtrold posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 4:34 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. The Aiko/David figure looks very promising.
You know what is right for you. I know what is right for me.
TygerCub posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 4:58 AM
I thank you... and my morphed figures thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kalypso posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 7:00 AM Online Now! Site Admin
LOL! My reaction exactly when Sharen told me :)) Have fun frankensteining your poser figures now!
randym77 posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 10:39 AM
I've been having that problem, too. What date and time properties box? You mean the one for the Windows clock?
pdxjims posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 11:43 AM
libernull posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 12:09 PM
Pdxjims- He looks really good! Really really good.
Kalypso posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 4:22 PM Online Now! Site Admin
Oh, wow, pdxjims, he looks great - Brom converted to David? I gotta try that one. randy, yep, it's the window clock I'm talking about, for some reason I cannot even begin to fathom it works :)
randym77 posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 4:54 PM
Thanks. It's been driving me nuts! But I gotta wonder...how on god's green earth did Sharen ever figure this out?????
dvd_master posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 6:32 PM
What bothers me so much about Daz's "Bishounen" is they don't know what the f*** a bishounen is. Bishounen mean 'pretty boys', which in the sense are the exact OPPOSITE of the muscular, masculine men that are included in the package.
In Manga (I study the artwork for this more then Anime, but the same applies for either ;) ), the head shape is generally always the same, but its the hair, eyesbrows, clothes, and (sometimes) eyes that define a male as a character.
I haven't yet played around with Aiko yet (though she does have promise), but if you give her a boyish hairstyle, thicker eyebrows (this can be done in texture maps too)and male clothing, she should be able to pull off a 'he' very nicely.
As said above, I don't know what morphs she has, but if you can narrow her eyes a little, and adjust them in general, it will look better. It's not a requirment (like DNAngel sports beautiful huge eyes, but you can still tell Daisuke is a boy), but it may be just what you need to be convincing.
Males are REALLY left out of Poser. There are hundreds and hundreds of clothing for females, and scarce few for males. It's all female hair, eyes, morphs, etc., when there are very little for males. It's no suprise that Millennium Girls came first, and I don't expect a male Aiko to be on his(?) way anytime soon. I really wish there was a good male anime character available. Then I can make my own anime as a 3d cartoon render. Mwahahaha.. EDIT: how could I forget? You'll also have to get rid of the boobs. ;)
Message edited on: 11/29/2004 18:32
Crescent posted Mon, 29 November 2004 at 7:29 PM
It depends on the particular anime/manga series as to how the guys look. The high school aged ones look almost identical to the girls face-wise (like the characters in DNAngel), but the older males do resemble the Bishonen package more. Look at "Decendents of Darkness" or "Pet Shop or Horrors" characters, for example, to see what I mean. And if you open up the genre to include manhwa for example (Korean style manga such as "Model") then the range of looks is even larger. Cheers!
pdxjims posted Wed, 01 December 2004 at 9:21 PM
Of all people I should have remembered Hajami for Ayumi by Dodger at PoserPro's. My apologies, bud. It's a great character.