Hi, I've been out of Internet contact for a long time due to severe health problems. Now I'm slowly back to 3D and had to spend quite a time relearning how to work with Bryce5! A few days ago I visited a friend that has 3DMax6 with the Dreamscape plugin installed. I was amazed with the power of that Max plugin. It makes Bryce5 looks like old Vistapro. It is a complex program that comes with an excellent 173 pages manual and a lot of tutorials. The rendering speed and landscape capabilities it provides inside Max are a dream to Brycers. It still don't offers Worldbuilder's vegetation interaction to wind, but one can make that with max tools. I hope that Bryce6 will come close to Dreamscape. Unfortunately there are very few sites dedicated to Dreamscape. Have a look at: http://www.afterworks.com/DSBfirst.htm http://www.schloerb.com/Dreamscape2/ http://www.afterworks.com/ Fernando