Gareee opened this issue on Dec 17, 2004 ยท 72 posts
Gareee posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:03 PM
Attached Link: http://webpages.charter.net/gareee/Raw-surprise.zip
We had such kind and loving compliments from a recent thread, that some of the PAs got together, and decided to create yet another freebie. It was created especially for a certain few people per their request. As requested, it does not require any other product whatsoever, and the hope is that it is accepted in the spirit that it is presented. Here is the link, and Happy Holidays from it's creators!Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
JenX posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:07 PM
...Gareee, that is too cute....I'm gonna bite my tongue, LOL...I'll get m'self in trouble!
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elizabyte posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:09 PM
I loved this when I first saw it in the PA forum, and I'm pleased to have a copy of it on my hard drive now. It's PERFECT. :-) bonni
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Gareee posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:09 PM
elizabyte posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:26 PM
Yes, that's true. More than one PA was involved in the production of this freebie. :-) bonni
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Gareee posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:37 PM
Yeah, I can't take credit for someone else's work, but I'm always happy to pass on Holiday Cheer whenever possible...
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
elizabyte posted Fri, 17 December 2004 at 11:42 PM
Yes, I think people can rightfully consider it to be from all of us... ;-P bonni
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c_hubert posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:15 AM
Ya gotta love it. You PA's are great. :)
tonymouse posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:35 AM
:) That is too apropreate. I love it. ;)
Tilandra posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:51 AM
Locked threads should be treated like Vegas... What happens in a locked thread should stay in the locked thread. Do you really want to start stirring up trouble? Especially after some people have attempted to apologize? It makes you look small.
Flak posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 1:25 AM
Very cool "extra" freebie. And soooo many uses, in so many ways ;) Thankyou kindly :)
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Spiritfoxy posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 1:40 AM
I for one think it is an absolutely perfect gift, totally free standing as asked for and is in theme with the season. As for apologies, pray tell where these "attempts" were made for I have not seen them. This particular freebie is a very useful one and can definitely be used in a number of different type of renders including victorian themed pictures, possibly a basement where the coal was shuttled into the furnace, or an english scene where coal was prevalent in use, or a gift under the tree for a naughty child. Ever wonder why a lump of coal is in stories regarding being good or bad children? Tis to teach those very children lessons about certain things, like proper behavior, among other things.
Argon18 posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 4:05 AM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12357&Form.ShowMessage=2047294
As far as I can tell Tilandra was the only 1 to make an effort to attempt. The rest probably deserve the freebie that got *wink* I guess the Ghost of Future Freebies only works in some cases
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coldrake posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 4:36 AM
Happy Holidays everyone!
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Jaqui posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 5:44 AM
~rotflmao~
RawArt posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 5:53 AM
I hope everyone takes this freebie gift with the humour it was intended. It was not designed to offend, but with hopes to turn a previously ugly situation into something more fun, to lighten the holiday spirit.
But I did neglect to put a readme file in this zip (which i hope to correct soon), so if anyone is having problems finding it, it can be found in your "Props" folder in a folder called "Raw-Freebies Thank You & Merry Christmas Rawn
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MeInOhio posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:08 AM
What's a PA?
Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:17 AM
It's a Participating Artist over at Daz.
In a nutshell, someone who doesn't work for Daz, but is a poser artist, and has products that have been accepted there.
Message edited on: 12/18/2004 07:18
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Lucifer_The_Dark posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:20 AM
woohooo another freebie :D
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beachnut posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:20 AM
ROLF! Hey I actually didn't have one of those...so it IS appreciated! :)
Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:50 AM
Sincere apologies for early downloaders.. I've now added two morphs to the prop as well, so you'll need to download it again. (I hadda add my .02 to it.. LOL!)
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
LornaW posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:53 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Great! Could have been reindeer crap as well.
Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:56 AM
Hmmm.. a slight retexturing, and a new mat file...;)
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
rowan_crisp posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 8:24 AM
giggles
The3dZone posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 8:50 AM
hahahaa! very good you guys. DDD
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Tilandra posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 9:14 AM
Heh, well okay then. Honestly, I was afraid to open the zip file, with all the winking, nudging, and the word RAW in the title. Anyone familiar with the standard webpage we usually give to people asking for warez in the Usenet newsgroups? I was expecting something like that. Silliness I can handle though, and jump right in the conga line with the elephant :)
elizabyte posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 9:40 AM
Silliness I can handle though, and jump right in the conga line with the elephant :) Then the evil plan to overcome animosity with humor is working! Soon ALL of Poserland will be doing the conga!!! BWAHAHAHAH!!! bonni
"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch." - Bette Davis
randym77 posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 10:05 AM
deerpath posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 10:10 AM
Lol!! I just love that snowman!!
RawArt posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 10:34 AM
I tend to put "Raw" in most of the projects I work on...name recognition and all that stuff. No porn, no warez, no worries :) Raw-Art Raw-n Rawn ;)
Hyria posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 11:07 AM
Very cool little giftie. Thanks a lot for it. I now have something to put in my furnace ;)
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Bobbie_Boucher posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:02 PM
I think this little surprise gift is a big mistake, considering the emotions that were aroused in the previous thread. In fact, I'm inclined to be sure those responsible for the gift don't receive any of my future business. Now the difficulty comes when there are no "credits" listed in the readme file. Except maybe RawArt.
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Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:04 PM
Why that is the warmest and bestest-ever gift you could possibly give in return!
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Penguinisto posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:10 PM
"In fact, I'm inclined to be sure those responsible for the gift don't receive any of my future business. Ever stop to consider that maybe they don't want your money? I know they won't/can't say it for business reasons, but hell - I've no such scruples. ;) On the topic: nice pressie, though I'll be damned if I can find an immediate use for it. /P
RawArt posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:22 PM
Bobbie Boucher I have no interest in whatever politics anyone has with daz, if that want to rant and complain that is their decision. Daz has treated me pretty well, so I personally dont have any problems with them. But my products are my products, if you cant see the humour in the gift, then I am sorry. I stated clearly that this was meant purely in funto make what was an ugly situation into something a bit lighter. But now I do take it personal that you want to rally people against buying my products. That is not cool. I work hard to provide the best quality products I can to anyone who enjoys my unique style. If you want to turn a situation that was intended as light humour back into something ugly, with an attemt to directly hurt my own business. That is entirely un-called for and in very bad form.
Puntomaus posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:30 PM
Rawn, don't listen to what Ron Knights aka Bobbie Boucher has to say. Best is to ignore him. Remember: don't feed the Troll!
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RawArt posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 12:34 PM
No worries Puntomaus I have no issues against this fellow. I can accept that he was acting out of some emotion, and probably didnt intend it as a personal attack against me. The fact is simply that this gift was designed for fun, and it seems many other people understand the fun of it. I do hope he lightens up though and starts to enjoy the season...I know I do :) Rawn
Bobbie_Boucher posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 1:44 PM
Hah, so many people found an issue with the freebies, and so many negative emotions were generated. So much so that the thread was locked. Emotions had likely not even died to a dull roar before the next salvo, a "joke" arrives. Do you ever think of the consequences of your actions? Oh wait, there were really no "nay-sayers" in the last thread, it was all me with different names. You Poser merchants can't really afford to keep alienating your customers, then crying when someone decides to reward your negative attitude with a boycott.
RawArt posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 1:58 PM
come on man, just enjoy the season, dont make things into a drama. Poser is a fun hobby Christmas is a fun season Just enjoy it
Jaqui posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 2:47 PM
last year I got myself a great prezzie in r/t... a box of coal. ( hard candy ) made my day.
Argon18 posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 3:10 PM
How is it "alienating your customers" when they are giving things away for free, don't you need to buy something to be considered a "customer?" It is what they said they wanted, a freebie that is stand alone and doesn't reqire anything to be bought for it, it does pay to be careful what you wish for since you might get it. I guess it's not only bankers that can be Scrooges, maybe lawyers make it even more contagious? I agree with SpiritFoxy, I think she hit the nail on the head "This particular freebie is a very useful one and can definitely be used in a number of different type of renders including victorian themed pictures, possibly a basement where the coal was shuttled into the furnace, or an english scene where coal was prevalent in use, or a gift under the tree for a naughty child. Ever wonder why a lump of coal is in stories regarding being good or bad children? Tis to teach those very children lessons about certain things, like proper behavior, among other things." I suppose it takes some longer more repeatitions to learn than others
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Tilandra posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 3:28 PM
When you perceive something as an attack from someone, you can deal with it one of two ways. You can absorb it, and let it fester, or you can let it bounce off of you and ignore it. Please people, I'm asking again... lets leave all this stuff in the locked thread.
Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 4:45 PM
Bobby, Ron, whatever.. I understand you are having really crappy personal problems... instead of spreading your ill will and unhappy sentiments with the community, why not instead take some of the joy and happiness that the people here are offering instead? People are trying to make you happy, in your time of dispair.. accept some happiness into your life, since it sounds like you really need some.
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Puntomaus posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 5:12 PM
In germany the bad children will get a rod from Santa. What reminds me of my pointy stick ... Peng, did you asked for something in the other thread? LOL
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Gareee posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 5:35 PM
"In germany the bad children will get a rod from Santa." Even the bad GIRLS? ;) --->Someone hadda say it.. LOL!<---
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Penguinisto posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 5:36 PM
"Peng, did you asked for something in the other thread? " Oh, baby... you know what I want... (insert evil grin here.) /P
c_hubert posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 6:43 PM
Bobbie_Boucher = Ron Knights ??? Oh man, Rawn, Just ingnor him... I remember when his SN was still Ron Knights. He had to put his 2 cnts into everything. Said he gave up on this community and left, so I thought. Sorry, for the OT post guys, I just fell over in disbelife. Again, I love the freebie and some people need to learn that life is to short to throw hissy-fits about every little thing. Laughter makes alot of things better. Keep up the good work Rawn
Kendra posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:35 PM
I for one love it and think they had every right to do it. :)
...... Kendra
Spiritfoxy posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 7:55 PM
I love the bag of coal, I think it is a very neat gift, thank you very much for it, I have an english scene I have been working on that it will do very nicely for, if I ever have enough time to finish it smile
Bobbie_Boucher posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 9:54 PM
Let's see if I can explain this in a way someone with an open mind might understand: 1.) The proper Christmas spirit is not shown if you only give the left shoe to someone who obviously needs both shoes. 2.) The proper Christmas spirit is not shown by insulting the recipient of the gift. Ever. 3.) If an artist sells his/her work at DAZ, Renderosity, or another web site, they represent that web site. If I buy from that web site, I am a customer. 4.) Someone who wants to make money from sales should never ever insult their customers, or potential customers. And they surely should not wHine if an insulted person threatens to boycott their products in the future. And you're sadly mistaken if you think I have the power to influence others to boycott you. 5.) I dare say most everyone in the forums uses aliases these days. It is only appropriate to accept those aliases on their own merit. If you do not agree, then start using your own name instead of an alias. Otherwise, that's enough of the consipiracy theories. 6.) I don't so much have a problem with the gifts as I do the very negative attitude that goes with them. 7.) There is never any justification for insulting someone. And don't make things worse by telling your victims they should enjoy the Christmas spirit. Stop and really think of what Christmas is all about. I don't see much evidence of that spirit in this thread.
Kendra posted Sat, 18 December 2004 at 10:24 PM
So Ron, what evidence of the "spirit of Christmas" do you find in someone complaining about a free gift?
They made an offer they didn't have to. Instead of saying "thanks", some chose to complain. If it were the Renderosity Merchant giveaway they wanted to complain about I'd have been pissed as well after working very long hours to create what I gave for free. Merchants have feelings and they have a right to be as pissed as you.
I'm afraid you can't demand that merchants kiss your tush or take one in the chops that they didn't deserve.
...... Kendra
coldrake posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 12:19 AM
Ron, aka Bobbie_Boucher, you've been permanantly banned here as "Ron Knights", "poserfool", "chrisjon1950", and "rogergordion". I won't bother to mention you've also been banned from 3DC and Poser Pros, all with good reason. Doesn't that tell you something? Thanks for bringing your special "Ron Knights" brand of Christmas cheer to this otherwise fun thread.......
No dancing elephant for you!
Back on topic, thanks for the new morphs! :)
Coldrake
Bobbie_Boucher posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 12:55 AM
Why are you making this into a personal attack? I'm not the one who initiated this subject, nor am I the only one who agrees. I see much hatred here. I see no Christmas spirit. Now mind your business, and stick to the thread.
hauksdottir posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 1:18 AM
Thank you for the coal. Whether it is given out of generosity or out of annoyance, it is a useful item: independent and flexible enough for a variety of scenes... and thus very welcome. Carolly
coldrake posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 1:20 AM
Ron,I made no personal attack, just stating facts.
I have plenty of Christmas spirit, that's why I'm thanking the DAZ PA's (and the folks here and at RDNA and all the others) for all the time and effort that went into the making of their wonderful free gifts! Something we ALL should do.......
Coldrake
elizabyte posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 1:25 AM
Whether it is given out of generosity or out of annoyance, it is a useful item: independent and flexible enough for a variety of scenes... That's what I thought. And with a bit of clever texturing, you could get a sack of feathers or grain or possibly gold or jewels... I thought it was a prefectly useful gift, and I thought the humor behind it was obvious. bonni
"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch." - Bette Davis
SndCastie posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 2:27 AM
Ok all lets just settle down and not make this into a free for all. This was a gift given out of the generosity of the PA's so lets just keep it to the subject of this thread. SndCastie Poser Moderator
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Bobbie_Boucher posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 2:38 AM
Hah, well my parents always did say I'd get a lump of coal in my stocking if I weren't a good boy. It finally happened.
AntoniaTiger posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 2:45 AM
Well, it's a handy prop, usable in a lot of scenes. But, for me at least, any intended humour didn't work. The snowman, that was funny. Anyway, pop it into freestuff after Christmas, and lets go back to the usual bitching about whether Poser is art.
Gareee posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 7:31 AM
Actually, after the holidays,I'd think all of these freebie threads would be moved into the freepository..
Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.
Lucie posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 8:30 AM
Randym77, your snowman is hilarious! ROFL Thanks for the laugh! :)
bigjobbie posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 2:17 PM
Thanks for the freebie Rawnr. When I was a kid I think the "rumour" one heard in the school yard was that someone got a piece of dry toast in their stocking when they were bad...maybe Santa finally realised giving a lump of charcoal (ie: a handy drawing implement) to a "bad kid" was REALLY dumb idea, heh heh Nowadays the 'punishment' gift is a pair of socks isn't it?
Bobbie_Boucher posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 2:29 PM
I do believe the "Threat to Bad Children" may have varied, perhaps according to geographical location or culture?! Here in the US, I distinctly remember being threatened every Christmas season with the lump of coal in my stocking.
Corinne posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 3:49 PM
Ah :) I too love that snowman !
nene-chan posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 9:23 PM
"Nowadays the 'punishment' gift is a pair of socks isn't it?" I dunno. My 4 year old has found many fun uses for his socks, other than keeping them on his feet like turning them into sock puppets, or handy bags to store his Hot Wheels. I'm still searching for the ultimate 'punishment' gift. Maybe underwear. I love the coal. Can think of a number of things I could do with it. Thank you!
Jaqui posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 9:27 PM
bigjobbie, not charcoal, coal, doesn't write at all. and coal was good luck symbol for some peoples.
bigjobbie posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 10:13 PM
heh, Well they could always use it to burn the house down I guess... I guess it must date from when people had coal-cellars etc for home heating...Pre-WW2 or there-abouts? A common household item associated with chores...? I remember that Bill Murray movie, where as a Kid he gets a packet of Meat for his Xmas present, but recalls it as being a "good" present because of high current market value of beef...or something...
Tilandra posted Sun, 19 December 2004 at 10:31 PM
Heh, it was veal... cause his dad was a butcher. My daughter would also love socks... she does the same thing. I constantly find Legos and other small toys in her socks, like little santa sacks all over the place.
queri posted Mon, 20 December 2004 at 12:06 AM
Oh, I was hoping it was a sack of coal. I love it. I can use it. It's a charming witty gift to those of us who barely deserve nuttin honey. And would make a great addition to a render of a Xmas nightmare. Socks are a fine present, especially in Poser when they at least used to be dang hard to come by. My least faves as a child when everyone else was getting dolls and velvet dresses was . . . underpants. Talk about a downer. Thank you, Garee, Rawn, anybody else who was involved, from the bottom of my heart, which I do have, and which hurt when I realised I'd hurt others. I did my apologies in private. Mostly. Emily
Phantast posted Mon, 20 December 2004 at 5:27 AM
Argon18 wrote: "As far as I can tell Tilandra was the only 1 to make an effort to attempt." Not so - I withdrew my remarks so far as they referred to the Daz PAs. They were inappropriate.
12rounds posted Mon, 20 December 2004 at 5:54 AM
GAREE, RAWN ... THANK YOU !!
Gareee posted Mon, 20 December 2004 at 6:19 AM