I have been playing around in the sky lab for a few days and although there is a setting for both a star field and comets, and you can choose how dence to make the stars and how many comets you want I can never get the setting just right so I can see anything in my renders. Any helpfull hints?

Yeah,............get Universe Image Creator. The Bryce skylab is seriously deficient when it comes to night or space skies.

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or post work..photoshop.. get that flaming pear freebie (for a few days at least..)

or.. go to the extreme with the controls in the sky lab.. but not really advisable...

hmmnnn....are you starting out with the Starfield Sky Preset?

It's entirely possible to make great skies in Bryce, it just requires that you spend a LOT of time in the DTE trying to make sense of what those idiots programmed... (Still, I love those idiots!) The Deep Texture Editor was, apparently, originally created only for the programmers to make Bryce preset texture, and was thrown in on Bryce 3D!'s Material Lab as a kind of "bonus", although how you can make procedural textures in Bryce without it is beyond me. Still, to answer your question? Sackrat was right, get Universe. Don't even waste your time with Bryce night skies... A child could do better with crayons. In the meantime try and use Photo Skies, you can find many online for free and simply map them to a 2D pict-object! Here's some links : (Astronomy Image-of-the-Day) http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html (Stellarium, a realtime 3D plantarium renderer) http://freeware.intrastar.net/planetarium.htm (and one other site I saw which had some cool pics...) http://www.astronomynz.org.nz/phoenix/images.htm Hope one of those helps!

idiots = geniusses ;)

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Ray: I think you mean Idiot = Idiot-savant which unless I'm very much mistaken means that a person is stupid until it comes to doing their job, at which point they are geniusssseessss/thingy...

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actually, one trick is to cut down on the stars' *intensity* setting, while cranking up the *number* of stars (I usually don't go much over 5,000)..but yeah, Universe is a good shareware..hang tite...here's the link

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