lol...I've been testing too long Time to share, I guess. I've had her for a bit, now and looks like she'll be on the market next week. morris and face_off have joined forces to make what, I think most certainly, is a very powerful tool. More control of the skin than ever before... The skin is a morris! Tight texture with just the right finesse. There's also a custom fit bumpmap which has been corrected for maximum impact. >closeup coming< The scripting is by face_off. He has taken it up about 10 levels from Real Skin Shader and fit it to this skin. See screenshot...1 The name of this new skin is still not released. This was rendered FFly with Displacement bounds and shading rate set at 0.200. No RayTrace. I doubt I'll ever use a straight skin again. As you can see, you can lighten, darken, blush, sweat, alt highlight, fade and auto bump and displace with all the in between...even lip gloss. In about 5 seconds. Yep, the eyes have been finessed for reflection and so have the teeth.