Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Geep - started the barn

cherokee69 opened this issue on Jan 20, 2005 ยท 67 posts


cherokee69 posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 7:09 PM

Doc, Got started on the barn I had told you about..the one my grandfather had at one time that was torn down sometime in the late 60's or early 70's. It had 2 stalls on each side and a very small tack room on the right side. I think it had been built sometime in the 20's or 30's..my mom isn't really sure when it was built. Can't ask my grandfather or grandmother as they are no longer around. I'm using Doc's tutorials and Poser to create this. How's it looking so far?

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zippyozzy posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 7:52 PM

wow, very cool! Which Poser are you using to make it?


cherokee69 posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 8:07 PM

I'm using Poser Pro 4.


geep posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 8:38 PM

YES !!! ....... Looking good !

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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4dogday posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 9:27 PM

I don't know where that Barn was built, but it looks like it was either a Cantilever Barn or a spin off of one. The Cantilever barns built in the 1800's with cribs on each side, but very more sturdy looking than what yours shows. they were whole logs notched one the ends so they could fit together with no nails. These barns are mostly in the Appalachian area, there are a lot of them in east Tennessee, but like all Barns that have any age, they are going fast. I have pictures of a lot of barns since I've been in east Tennessee, I know of at least 15 barns within the last 14 years that were torn down. If this is the type of barn your grandparents had I have pictures that I have drawn which are exteriors, and I have some pictures of a Cantilever that is just the frame work if I can find it if you need some pics to help you.


cherokee69 posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 10:31 PM

Thanks for that info 4dogday..very interesting. I don't think my grandfather copied a style from anywhere. He was a simple country farmer here in North Carolina. The more I work with this, the more it's looking like I remembered it. I have found a couple of photos that my mom has but they don't show very much detail. Actually, in them, yo can just the the outside shape and I keep using my childhood memories and my mom's memory for the details. Here is the progress so far. Getting cross-eyed looking at this thing and going to have to stop for the night.

geep posted Thu, 20 January 2005 at 10:49 PM

Lookin' GOOD !!! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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beachnut posted Fri, 21 January 2005 at 6:47 AM

You've done and excellent job! So much so, in fact, that it brought back memories of my own Grandfather who had a barn very similar to that (He was an Indiana tobbaco farmer) I looked at your picture and can just SMELL the tobbaco leaves hanging upside down by their stalks drying in that barn. He's been gone 30 years now and your barn just gave me a pang of missing him....Great work! :)


cherokee69 posted Fri, 21 January 2005 at 8:19 AM

Thanks for that comment beachnut...guess I'm doing something right here. I have alot more work to do on the barn...working on the rafters, the stalls, tin roof, and siding. Doc has been a wonderful help and a wealth of info when I run across something that I didn't understand or how to do.


ChuckEvans posted Fri, 21 January 2005 at 9:41 AM

NC, huh? And a name like Cherokee69? The detective in me says you're from Western NC.


cherokee69 posted Fri, 21 January 2005 at 9:45 AM

Chuck, Actually not western NC, but about 45 miles east of Charlotte. Cherokee comes from me being 1/8th Cherokee.


ChuckEvans posted Fri, 21 January 2005 at 10:01 AM

Ahhh, I see. Drat! Hate it when I look like an idiot (smile). I grew up near Hickory, NC (about 60 miles west of Charlotte). In the foothills.


cherokee69 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 8:35 AM

Chuck, I get that alot. Many people think I'm from Cherokee because of my nic, so you aren't alone in thinking that.


cherokee69 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 8:41 AM

Got more framing done. Work is taking up too much of my time and I can't work on this very much after I get home from work or in the morning before I go to work. Got the rafter bracing done and changed the beams. Started working on the stalls. Doc, am I going a little too overboard on this?

geep posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 9:04 AM

re: "Doc, am I going a little too overboard on this?"

Hi cherokee69,

Well, ...... Yes .............. and ..... no.

It all depends on what you want to do.

If you want to practice using DGS to make a true replica of a wood structure that is true down to a high level of detail, then the answer is ... no.

If, on the other hand, you want to use the final model in renders and there are areas of the structure that will never be visible, e.g., rafters way up inside in a dark corner (unless someone like NSG crawls up there with a flashlight ...)

... then the answer is ........... yes.

Ok?

Ok.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

P.S. There is, also, something inherently satisfying about having accomplished something that is not easily done ... even if no one else ever sees it, no? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 9:15 AM

"P.S. There is, also, something inherently satisfying about having accomplished something that is not easily done ... even if no one else ever sees it, no? ;=]" Yep, I think that is what all this boils down to. It's a desire to recreate what use to be. I've always wanted to rebuild that barn but with prices of materials, it wouldn't be worth it....but, I can do it virtually. Thanks for all the encouragement Doc and everyone else. This has been fun...so far.


geep posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 9:28 AM

Yup, Poser materials are real cheap. (after the initial investment, of course ;=] )

I have a whole lumberyard in my library. It's worth million$ and million$ ................ of bytes. ;=]

BTW - when it stops being fun, ........ don't do it anymore.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

BTW#2 - Doc sez, "Poser ain't just fer figures anymore, ya know!"

cheers,
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 8:19 PM

BTW#2 - Doc sez, "Poser ain't just fer figures anymore, ya know!"

You got that right..there is more that you can do with poser than...well...go look at the Poser gallery and you'll see what I mean.

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cherokee69 posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 10:02 PM

Doc, Here is the "finished" barn frame..unless some family member remembers something I forgot or didn't include. I still have the loft flooring, the siding, roof slats, and the tin roof to do yet, but here are 3 pics as I promised so you can see how it's coming along.

cherokee69 posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 10:03 PM

another angle...

cherokee69 posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 10:04 PM

and another one...

geep posted Thu, 27 January 2005 at 4:05 AM

It's a thing of beauty !!! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Thu, 27 January 2005 at 4:14 AM

Thanks Doc....Without your tuts, I'd never been able to do this or figure it out so I guess I owe it all to you. I'm going to work on some of the stall siding this evening when I get home from work.


cherokee69 posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 8:43 AM

Moving right along....got the stall walls in place and the floors for the loft.

geep posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 10:14 AM

Lookin' good!! Are you maintaining different "groups" and "materials" so you can make areas transparent for making renders? Just a thought. cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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ChuckEvans posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 2:22 PM

Looks nice!


Tiny posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 2:56 PM

Wonderful to follow your progress! It looks so nice.



cherokee69 posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 9:47 PM

Thanks everyone..I'm really enjoying this and I owe it all to Doc....but..I sure wish there were more poser people that appreciated this kind of thing or would do more in poser. Doc, Yeah, I'm thinking of having the entire frame as one group and then maybe the foundation, the stall walls, front, rear, left and right walls as separate groups, then maybe the roof tin as another. What do you think?


geep posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 10:00 PM

Hi cherokee69, That sounds like a good plan. ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Fri, 28 January 2005 at 10:53 PM

Doc, Just had an idea...Rosity is always having monthly challenges and alot of people seem to enjoy those. If you have some good contacts with people running this place..why not suggest a monthly challenge of something created in Poser like your tuts do and I'm doing here. It would get people (if they would participate) to use their skills and minds to come up with something totally created in Poser and not using some other prop or props that that someone else has made. I think it would be cool and a good idea but then again, some people might not think so.


deemarie posted Sat, 29 January 2005 at 4:17 AM

Excellent work Stan, and I really like the idea of the "Doc" Tut Challenge - I will be sure to pass it along to the Poser Mods :) Just tOOooo much fun :) Dee-Marie


geep posted Sat, 29 January 2005 at 8:42 AM

re: "... people running this place ... "

It would appear that one of them ...
(waves ... Hi Dee ! ;=]
... already has seen your suggestion (<---I LIKE it !!!) and will pass it on.

It just might be veddddddddddy interesting.

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Sat, 29 January 2005 at 10:03 AM

Oh yeah, she saw it and has already passed it along. "It just might be veddddddddddy interesting."..you got that right. Maybe like something they have created in Poser using your tuts. It would need to be the main figure or prop for the image and not some small little thing added to an over postworked image. Also, not one of the props you used in the tuts. Would my barn qualify since it was started before this idea came about? It was the inspiration for the idea.


SndCastie posted Sat, 29 January 2005 at 2:52 PM

Thanks Dee will get together with the rest of the Mods and coordinator and see what we can come up with. :O)


Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things

SndCastie's Little Haven


cherokee69 posted Sun, 30 January 2005 at 5:48 PM

S L O W L Y getting there. Doc, if I can keep my sanity..LOL..I may get this finished. Got the walls for the stalls done. Working on the boards for the siding...one at a time. This thing has been like building a real one. Going to clone the front to make the back and do the same for the sides but each board will be able to have it's own texture. Did that for the walls for the stalls already.

geep posted Sun, 30 January 2005 at 6:15 PM

Truely ..... a work of art ! ..... (in more ways than one) ;=]

But, I don't like the look of that sky ... you'd better hurry up and git that roof on there. ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Sun, 30 January 2005 at 9:05 PM

One more pic for the night..a little closer. Got a little more done. The texture for the siding boards a actual photos I took of the smokehouse siding. I'm up to 44 boards so far on the front and still not finished.

geep posted Sun, 30 January 2005 at 10:34 PM

You even notched the rafters ... now THAT'S classy !!! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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EricofSD posted Mon, 31 January 2005 at 9:31 PM

Cherokee69, you pose an interesting questions. Maybe the PTB's on the challenge will indeed look into this.


cherokee69 posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 5:51 PM

Hey Doc, Got this far..got the roof slats on the front. Still have to do the ones on the back. Then have to do the tin roof and the ridge cap. I have it set up so if I wanted to, I can turn sections of it off to show the insides.

cherokee69 posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 5:55 PM

Oh yeah, still have to do the doors for the stalls.


Tiny posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 9:28 PM

Beautiful work! geep> he did what to the rafters?



Helgard posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 9:44 PM

Cherokee, remember the ladder to get to the second level inside.


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cherokee69 posted Fri, 04 February 2005 at 3:14 PM

Helgard, Yep..got the ladders in..there were 2 of them..one one each side. I knew they were there just didn't remember where they were located so I had to pic my mom's brain again for info. Here is it...finished except for the stall doors.

geep posted Fri, 04 February 2005 at 6:12 PM

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 6:05 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=877880

The barn is finished and I posted a pic of the finished project at the link above. What's next..the old 3-bay garage...maybe the house. Not sure yet. Thanks, Cherokee

Tiny posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 7:03 AM

Thank you geep, understand it now! :o)

cherokee69, great work, notches and all!

What's next.. <<
Share it or sell it so others (read us) also can have it! ;o)



geep posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 7:25 AM

You're welcome Tiny but ... C'mon ... you know you could build one of your own ... ifn ya really wanted to ... couldn't ya? Well, couldn't ya? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Tiny posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 7:40 AM

I guess... just too lazy.... Just built a modern stable for 11 horses with club room, tack room and the whole bit. It would definitely get a price in the 'impossible buildings' contest in Vue forum. Got noting to hold up the ceiling besides the walls. :o) Couldn't fit in all the pillars so they'd look good. 3D freedom!



geep posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 7:56 AM

Oops ......... sorry Tiny. ;=[ Your modern stable looks excellent! Anybody got a shoe remover that I can use on my mouth? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Tiny posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 8:31 AM

No, no geep, I didn't mean to say:
fists on hips wiggling head "As if I wouldn't know how to make a house eh!?"
Just wanted to say I was a bit tired of making houses and prove it by showing I actually -did- make one. :o)

helps geep getting the unnecessary and imaginary foot out of his mouth



geep posted Mon, 07 February 2005 at 8:50 AM

Um, er, thanks, I, uh .... think. ;=?

slowly wanders off into the mist ... muttering unintelligible remarks into thin air

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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InfoCentral posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 10:05 PM

Which of Geep's tutorials are following?


geep posted Tue, 08 February 2005 at 10:34 PM

Following what? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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Tiny posted Wed, 09 February 2005 at 4:25 AM

All (or most) of the tuts are at THIS PLACE.

At the moment he is doing a FACE ROOM TUT HERE.

Hope this helps. :o)



cst posted Mon, 14 March 2005 at 4:11 AM

WOW - Cherokee - FABULOUS WORK - you are amazing.


InfoCentral posted Mon, 14 March 2005 at 9:42 AM

Following what? - geep The tutorial on doing the barn. I would like to work through that one myself.


geep posted Mon, 14 March 2005 at 9:53 AM

Good idea ... GO FOR IT ! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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InfoCentral posted Tue, 15 March 2005 at 9:11 PM

"Good idea ... GO FOR IT" Where can I find it?


geep posted Tue, 15 March 2005 at 10:02 PM

Hey cherokee69, You need to do a tut on the "barn" for InfoCentral. ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Wed, 16 March 2005 at 9:06 AM

Doc, I'd love to do that but I didn't write down any setting of any of the "boards" plus I'm not good at putting things on paper so to do a tutorial, I'd have to do the entire barn all over again. It was hair raising enough once but twice and keeping track of all the "board" settings would be a little too much for me I think. And you thought your house toturial was getting long, I think a tutorial for the barn would be even longer. I mean, look at all the "boards" in that thing.


geep posted Wed, 16 March 2005 at 9:46 AM

Stan, Ok. ;=] Hey InfoCentral, Sorry 'bout that. A tut for the barn doesn't exist. ;=[ "Wood" you like to see one? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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InfoCentral posted Fri, 18 March 2005 at 4:17 PM

That's OK. Where can I find your tut on the building the house? This sounds like a good place to start.


geep posted Fri, 18 March 2005 at 4:28 PM

Hi InfoCentral, [ CLICK HERE and ye shall receive.](http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=1890859) cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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cherokee69 posted Fri, 18 March 2005 at 4:53 PM

Info, Now remember, Doc's house tutorial is 78 pages long...so far. It's long but full of some great information...just take your time and enjoy it.


InfoCentral posted Tue, 22 March 2005 at 5:53 PM

I see that! This should keep me busy until the Poser 6 SP2 comes out.


geep posted Tue, 22 March 2005 at 5:58 PM

SP2 ??? Mayhaps, ... are we not being just a tad bit ... premature ??? ;=|

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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