...in case anyone's interested. I made my first halfway decent Vue thing, a chandelier. Well, OK, I didn't make it in Vue. I just don't have the patience for all that boolean-ating when it comes to things like this. This chandelier was made in Rhino, of which I am a happy ( if notterribly confused, lol) new owner. :) I put it in the Free Stuff here. It's nothing special, and I hope to have more and better stuff soon, but it IS in .vob format, which means only us Vue-ers get to use it...MUAHAHAHAHAH...err...I'm OK now... Enjoy, if you want. :) Cheers, Mike