Forum: MarketPlace Showcase


Subject: what would you like to see in the market place

dick_longly opened this issue on Jan 22, 2005 ยท 69 posts


dick_longly posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 10:22 PM

I'm wondering what type of stuff should I make and try to seel in the market place. you know like things you guys want but aren't in the market place yet. thanks for your time


SamTherapy posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 10:39 PM

Realistic spacesuits with helmets and accessories. Mercury, Gemini and Apollo style, plus 2001 and Alien styles. For V2, M2, V3 and M3. Mercury, Gemini and Apollo capsules. High quality, well detailed Fender Telecaster and Fender Strat. They must have modelled frets, not just a texture map. A Fender Precision Bass. Acoustic guitars which actually look like real acoustic guitars. Long curly hair - not dynamic, not Afro, not wavy, but curly and reallistic. A three quarter length leather coat. Not a duster or a trench coat,but a British style "Bad Guy" coat, as worn by the lads in "Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels". Realistic cars with the steering wheel on the correct side (the right). Japanese motorbikes. A Rolls-Royce. Any, but preferably a recent model. Well, that's my wishlist.

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dlk30341 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 10:51 PM

Something other than lingerie & slutty looking type items. IE...buildings/plants/animals/real life items. I think that leaves that range wide open :)


ynsaen posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:09 PM

deleted previous post for innapropriate statements. This sort of post isn't allowed in the Poser for you forum -- it belongs inthe product showcase forum or the developers forum.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


MysticBlueRaven posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:10 PM

Native American outfits that pose well and that are not sleazy looking. Native american saddle for the mil horse. A posable guinea pig, trees . That is what I am looking for


KyReb posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:20 PM

Anything BUT More lingere, Big Breasted Models, and skimpy clothing. surfeit v. To feed or supply to excess, satiety, or disgust. And I believe the marketplace has fulfilled all three.


RubiconDigital posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:31 PM

"This sort of post isn't allowed in the Poser for you forum -- it belongs inthe product showcase forum or the developers forum." Huh? He was asking a question, not plugging anything. Seems fair to me, as not everyone who reads this forum necessarily visits the product showcase forum regularly, and the developer's forum is busy gathering dust.


dlk30341 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:40 PM

I have no idea why you would think this thread unacceptable......just some one looking for ideas...and since we all don't have access to merchant/developers forums..I'd like to speak my mind on what I want or OTOH sick n tired of seeing...that being bras/panties/slut type clothes..it's a drag IMHO.....I saw a recent item up for sale & nearly hurled at the price & exactly what was being offered.....I'll be quiet now.....don't want to offend said artist.

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ynsaen posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:42 PM

I agree -- wasn't complaining, just pointing out the rule. I've had a few moved for the same reason :) My inappropriate statement was a comment regarding an upcoming product of my own. If they don't visit the showcase forum regularly, then they should -- that's where contests and other very cool stuff are held about upcoming products. Market research -- which is what this is -- is not allowed herein -- that's all I was saying. As for me -- I agree with the 3/4 length coat -- that would be cool.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


dlk30341 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:49 PM

Well....if future/current merchants don't inquire on a regular basis as to the needs of the folks how are we to expect the store to improve??? I'm tired of wading thru endless pages of lingerie/slut type wares whether it be original objects or textures as well as the same texture being recylced over & over with just a different morph applied to the face/body.

Of course this is just IMHO ;)....

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RubiconDigital posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:50 PM

I've seen numerous posts asking what people would like to see in the marketplace. I fail to see how this is inappropriate if you are just asking for suggestions. If someone comes in and starts showing their new product in development, then yes that belongs in the product showcase forum.


ynsaen posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:51 PM

Absolutely. I ask all the time what folks want, lol. I'm asking for feedback right now on a product, lol. I happen to think we should be allowed to post in here about it. But the rule isn't mine to make. That's why the showcase forum is supposed to be used for such things. There's also a wishing well, believe it or not!

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


dlk30341 posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:54 PM

Who the hell looks there???...I've posted as well as many others yet nothing ever comes to fruition...what a waste of forum space. I give up...I'll just take it as it comes...just like like all other stores...no biggie. I'll still continue to spend when something stikes my fancy.


RubiconDigital posted Sat, 22 January 2005 at 11:59 PM

The wishing well is even dustier than the developer's forum.


pakled posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 12:04 AM

pants..slacks, bulky clothes, flowing 'mucha-like' hair, anything but more 'space thongs' (not that I could ever make one, but just for variety's sake..;) sweatshirts, etc.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

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ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 12:10 AM

hey -- let him know if you want dynamic or conforming versions, too!

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


pakled posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 12:13 AM

with Poser 4? I want objects!..;) conforming..now that's another thing. Actually, not knowing for sure, I would think with a lot of loose clothing, it wouldn't be so critical..;) but all I've made so far are hats and shoes..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


dlk30341 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 12:19 AM

With Poser5...I just want stuff that work appropriately within P5....

That said more normal looking fashions....When I'm at work..I don't don't see women walking around with skirts up to their asses and bellies hanging out.

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Little_Dragon posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:24 AM

A conforming trenchcoat for the MilDragon, so we won't be forced to do NVIATWAH* renders ad infinitum.

Ferrets.

More steampunk stuff.



ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:33 AM

hmmmm.... mildragon....

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


lmckenzie posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:58 AM

Real crotchless pantyhose and garter belts, not just trans maps. Teddies, belly dancer outfits, stiletto heels, hotpants, pushup bras... Posette and Vicky decked out in G-Strings, these are a few of my favorite things. Let me think of how to pound that repetively into your heads.

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xantor posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 2:47 AM

Soldier uniforms and NOT for victoria 3. For male figures only but female versions could be made later if wanted.


mathman posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 4:07 AM

I want to see a normal short hair prop for males, as opposed to the long "lion's mane" styles that seem to be popular (esp at RDNA).


KarenJ posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 5:26 AM

Moving this thread to Product Showcase... as per the forum guidelines ;-)


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ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 5:47 AM

hee hee hee hee hee hee

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


xantor posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 6:02 AM

This isnt showcasing a product so it shouldnt be in this forum.


guslaw posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 7:36 AM

This is the 'Product Showcase Forum'

..." Moving this thread to Product Showcase... as per the forum guidelines ;-)"

So what's the product that is being showcased?

(..just curious)

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ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 8:06 AM

Any and all of the potential products to be made by the original poster. According to the Poser Forum guidelines, market research, product advertisements, and similar sales stuff posted by merchants is supposed to go here or the developer's forum.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


randym77 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 9:56 AM

Judging from your gallery, you do a lot of cars. They would probably sell very well, if you priced them right.


dick_longly posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 10:00 AM

all who are giving me input thanks and for those who waited at there computer for my thread to be moved I hope it's as great a moment as you thought it would be.


PapaBlueMarlin posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 10:31 AM

Clothing and textures for Neftis' Elle and LynnJonathan's Misaki. More clothing stuff for Stephanie Petite, The Freak and David. In general, more every day type clothign over fantasy stuff. More python scripts like real skin shader or other items that take full advantage of P5 shaders.



Farside posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 11:44 AM

V3 has just about everything she needs... S3P, M3 and David all have been underserved by the merchants to date.


Midnightposer posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 11:50 AM

Sci-fi based outfits similar to Veronica Year Three or Liquid Halo on Sky 16 but for David Or Mike. Something that could be used as a male companion in the scenes with Vicky in those outfits.


Rubbermatt posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 11:55 AM

Anything for Ingenue Vickie


ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:27 PM

"and for those who waited at there computer for my thread to be moved I hope it's as great a moment as you thought it would be." Never thought it was gonna be a great moment -- rather snarky of ya. I pointed out it was gonna be moved and why. Wasn't being mean, spiteful, or unkind. And I did toss in an idea -- and tried to help get clarification on some things, too.

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:54 PM

Would like Textures for M3 & D3 with Tan lines M3 & D3 Conforming Jock Straps, conforming football jersy with out pads, Letterman's Sweater, Fireman's Gear, Conforming dogtags,doctors scrubs, Leather Chaps, watches braclets, chains and puka style neclace some way to make Gen 3 people in to centaurs with MilHorse Props, display cases,racks Manakins to set up store scene hi-res psd tattoos to ad to characters also just a suggestion to character makers -but I would love it if you characters have distinctive morphs -please add some clothes fit magnets or poses for some standard clothe items. I know it adds mor work but I would pay more for it


dick_longly posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:55 PM

I didn't take it that way I just thought it was funny much that issue came up when I'm not selling anything only asking a question


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:55 PM

Would like Textures for M3 & D3 with Tan lines M3 & D3 Conforming Jock Straps, conforming football jersy with out pads, Letterman's Sweater, Fireman's Gear, Conforming dogtags,doctors scrubs, Leather Chaps, watches braclets, chains and puka style neclace some way to make Gen 3 people in to centaurs with MilHorse Props, display cases,racks Manakins to set up store scene hi-res psd tattoos to ad to characters also just a suggestion to character makers -but I would love it if you characters have distinctive morphs -please add some clothes fit magnets or poses for some standard clothe items. I know it adds mor work but I would pay more for it


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:55 PM

Would like Textures for M3 & D3 with Tan lines M3 & D3 Conforming Jock Straps, conforming football jersy with out pads, Letterman's Sweater, Fireman's Gear, Conforming dogtags,doctors scrubs, Leather Chaps, watches braclets, chains and puka style neclace some way to make Gen 3 people in to centaurs with MilHorse Props, display cases,racks Manakins to set up store scene hi-res psd tattoos to ad to characters also just a suggestion to character makers -but I would love it if you characters have distinctive morphs -please add some clothes fit magnets or poses for some standard clothe items. I know it adds mor work but I would pay more for it


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:56 PM

Would like Textures for M3 & D3 with Tan lines
M3 & D3 Conforming Jock Straps, conforming football jersy with out pads, Letterman's Sweater, Fireman's Gear, Conforming dogtags,doctors scrubs, Leather Chaps, watches braclets, chains and puka style neclace

some way to make Gen 3 people in to centaurs with MilHorse

Props, display cases,racks Manakins to set up store scene

hi-res psd tattoos to ad to characters

also just a suggestion to character makers -but I would love it if you characters have distinctive morphs -please add some clothes fit magnets or poses for some standard clothe items. I know it adds mor work but I would pay more for it


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 1:56 PM

Would like Textures for M3 & D3 with Tan lines
M3 & D3 Conforming Jock Straps, conforming football jersy with out pads, Letterman's Sweater, Fireman's Gear, Conforming dogtags,doctors scrubs, Leather Chaps, watches braclets, chains and puka style neclace

some way to make Gen 3 people in to centaurs with MilHorse

Props, display cases,racks Manakins to set up store scene

hi-res psd tattoos to ad to characters

also just a suggestion to character makers -but I would love it if you characters have distinctive morphs -please add some clothes fit magnets or poses for some standard clothe items. I know it adds mor work but I would pay more for it


umutov posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 2:07 PM

Hey notime6, we heard you the first 3 times, no need for the 4th. :). Just kidding, I think you over clicked it. have a great day my friend. Best regards, umut PS: I will pay whatever amount for someone who can clone Pamela Anderson and send her to me. :) I am not talking about digital clone. Juts kidding. :)


ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 2:15 PM

I like that idea for the centaur bit -- at least until they get the one that was being worked on finsihed over at daz! Yeah -- I won't pretend to have been aware of it myself, either -- at least not until I did the same thing and watched my threads moved too. It seems weird to a lot of folks, I know -- but y'know, it's their rules, not ours, lol. Hugs and good luck! Lots of awesome ideas! -- fair warning, though: there' a bunch of merchants looking at this going hmmmmmm, lol If you need help mapping anything, let me know, or if my rather meager skills can be of assistance, feel free to IM me :)

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


lemur01 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 3:10 PM

Dodger's Aeon figures.... great figures, not much in the way of clothing. Oh, i know there is a tut for converting clothes to fit.... but a) i'm lazy and happy to pay and b) i'm crap at that sort of thing. So how's about it? Jack


dlk30341 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 3:19 PM

I'll ditto Notime6....Dept. store items. T-racks/circular racks....display cases for jewelry....racks for pantyhose/handbags/shoes/hats, shelves...fitting rooms, public bathrooms, cash registers,escalators, elevator banks etc....Another words a WHOLE store complete...no need to clothes..got plenty of those LOL

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ynsaen posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 3:25 PM

oh damn.... lol I've got an entire set of of this stuff in very raw form -- most of my commercial work is in training videos for retail stores. I could detail it a bit, I suppose...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)


XENOPHONZ posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 3:52 PM

*Lab equipment: as found in chemical labs/physics labs.

**Medical equipment and scenery: -- as in monitors, operating theaters, hospital rooms with appropriate furnishings, examination rooms, waiting areas, hydrotherapy equipment, EKG machines, X-ray machines, CAT scanners......you name it. Anything and everything medical.

***Upcoming for me (there's some good stuff like this on the market, but not enough) Engineering/Industrial scenes and equipment. Factories, manufacturing plants, assembly lines......piping, catwalks, etc.....

**** I agree with the comments expressing a desire to see more normal clothing and hair. Sure, I am one that admits to the truth of the situation I.E. -- skimpy clothes will always sell better -- but I want to see good, ordinary clothing. Stuff that would be appropriate for the office, a nice restaurant, the grocery store, or wearing while playing with your kids in the backyard. I haven't seen anyone doing these things in their skivvies yet.

*****I could go on and on, but I'll leave it with these things.

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onimusha posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 4:22 PM

I would love to see robotic battle armor a la the new Appleseed movie.

www.appleseedthemovie.com

If you look at one of the wallpapers, the armor is featured prominently in one.

Here's a link to someone else's attempt:

http://www.amapi.net/galerie/displayimage.php?pos=-28

Here are some links to some pictures:

http://zarbos.online.fr/landmate.htm

http://www.scs.wsu.edu/~pbourque/guges.htm

Obviously you'd have to change it some in order to not violate copyright laws, but robotic armor in this style would be awesome.

Also, some of those cars you did in Poser 5 format would be awesome. Since someone brough up the fact that they're copyright violations, all of the good car figures have been pulled from the RMP. If you could change the figures enough so they wouldn't be copyright violations, but keep the general super sportscar "feel" they have, that'd be awesome.

S.W.A.T. armor styled shoulder pads would be great. Like the shoulder/arm armor in this picture:

http://www.securityandsafetysupply.com/products-body-armor/tactical-body-armor-4.html

I'd also have to echo that we really don't need any more fantasy outfits or lingerie for V3. We could use sci-fi outfits for M3 (maybe for V3, but she has a bunch). Normal clothes for M3 would be great as well. Oh and for pete's sake please no more V3 character packs...

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onimusha posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 4:24 PM

DAZ has a Milhorse/M3/V3 centaur on the way, just so you know...


dlk30341 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 4:44 PM

Well get busy Ynsaen...I'm waiting o.O LOL In all seriousness...if you ever get around to doing a department store..you have a purchaser here. I wouldn't think that texturizing for the rack/bins items of this nature would be that diffcult. A simple chrome/glass/wood mat would work. That said, the remainder of the items would be time consuming.....wish my modeling learning was progressing at a faster pace...for cripes sake it's taking me 2 weeks just to model a friggin tube in Shade & I still don't have right :(. Aw well, back to practicing.


hauksdottir posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 7:45 PM

I'd love a decent centaur... but the base figures (horse and person) would have to be in proportion BEFORE anybody thinks about putting them together. If that milpony is going to carry half the weight of a human, it needs heavier legs and a rump with some meat on it. The classical Greek centaurs aren't wimpy. I'd also love some of the other fantasy critters... manticores, gryphons, rocs, satyrs, dryads... but well done. Most of the bestiary hasn't been touched yet. Royloo has tackled the horse skeleton (yay!) and I've dropped it on my wishlist. More skeletons are needed. A dog skeleton and cat skeleton would be great for Hallowe'en and useful anytime. A cow/bison/ox skeleton is archetypal for western scenes. All sorts of animals are needed: ferrets, badgers, otters, ermine/weasels, hedgehogs, groundhogs.... We have all these predators and nothing for them to eat. Fancily-dressed women with no pets. Marketers, but no marketing weasels. Authentic props. Carolly


notime6 posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 9:28 PM

Ooops! sorry for the multi posts


Dave-So posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 10:18 PM

i got lost... but some more slutty stuff for M3 would be good

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sandoppe posted Sun, 23 January 2005 at 10:44 PM

Accurate, historically based props. No more "slutty stuff" period! Sorry Dave-So :)


pdxjims posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 9:38 AM

  1. Photorealistic male textures. 2) Old 1930's row houses, with front stoops and sidewalks. 3) 1930's living room like on the Waltons. 4) Art deco anything. 5) Short male hairstyles. Conservative business style.

shaft73 posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 9:49 AM

Some more male models/clothing not neccessarily aiming at the villiage people crowd. (and no I don't mean all gays!) some Sci-Fi/ Action clothing for M3. (Liquid Halo and Veronica are getting lonley!) More Male hair.


cinnamon posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 11:31 AM

lol @ dlk30341 i agree...i dont see women dressing like that either! thankful for that.. i'd also like to see more real life stuff. i really want a poser treehouse. the ones i have seen are too fantasy looking. but i loooooove cartoon characters and worlds. i have enough clothes, too. but if there was a good pair of stylish baggy jeans, for mike 2 or3 i'd buy them tropical luau things...like a pack to make a little island get-a-way with tiki torches, a tiki shack, tiki gods, tropical drinks, i made a little flash intro for my restaurant before. i'll see if i can find a picture of it. but i looked everywhere for these type of items, and could not find, with exception of the tropical drinks.


XENOPHONZ posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 12:58 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=29117

There's a Tiki Bar in the marketplace.

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XENOPHONZ posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 1:02 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=30856

There's also a "cozy island-type getaway" in the marketplace.

I've bought this one, myself.....but I haven't had a chance to use it yet.

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cinnamon posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 1:39 PM

ohhhh man. i wish it was there when i was looking for it last year. just my luck:-( but i did find something by transpond that worked okay. i'm off to get them now. both! thank you!!! on the outside there was palapas and i desperatley needed a prop so i could explain to the building and heatlh code people what i was planning to do. i could not believe they did not know what i was talking about. but then i found out allot people didnt. anyway, if you know where there is more of these type items, let me know! please.


XENOPHONZ posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 1:48 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=28993&ViewImage=1#Image

You are certainly welcome. Yes, there might be more stuff like this..... Here's a beach house. But it's a little fancier than your standard cabin.

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XENOPHONZ posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 1:54 PM

Attached Link: http://market.renderosity.com/softgood.ez?ViewSoftgood=32943

Here's another.

This one's pretty fancy, too.

You might want to search the marketplace on topics like "beach"; "beach house"; "shack"; "surf", etc..

Enjoy......wish I was on the coast. A little south of my current latitude, that is.

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cinnamon posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 2:03 PM

i did a search for those strings but the items were not available when i was looking for them around july of 2003. we were described by a food critic in a review as "earnest and strange" still don't know if that is good or bad, lol and, "hybrid between island eatery, suburban watering hole, and key west flophouse." so it is mixed with lots of tropical stuff. i ordered the products and cannot wait to play with them. i found lots of surfboards before and they worked great. i wish i was on the coast too. i feel really land-locked.


LonCray posted Mon, 24 January 2005 at 2:45 PM

I have to echo Midnightposer - a male version of the Liquid armor sets would be awesome. For that matter, male versions of the various scifi/anime armor things would be wonderful. And anything new by Gorodin - last I heard the real world was interfering with his making new Poser stuff, and his Concord sets are some of my favorites!


animajikgraphics posted Tue, 25 January 2005 at 1:55 AM

More scifi - sets, buildings, props. Like to see some stuff done with less grunge and more 50's retro (ala Jetsons, Buck Rogers style), tho I like the grungy stuff too.



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estherau posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 9:22 PM

They don't have boring mundane lives like the rest of us. They are millionairs or prisoners. they're soldiers. They get wounded and end up not only in hospital but usually in intensive care and sometimes (when the bullet has to be removed) in operating theatre. They often (as in many many novels) get forced to operate just outside the law. They hide in basements, leap across rooftops, absail down the sides of buildings in burglar atire. They deactiveate alarms and explosives. They wear bullet proof vests. They crawl along ventialtor shafts to reach their goals. They crack safes. They fight. They box and wrestle and do martial arts. They try and blend into a crowd at times in their efforts to escape their enemies. Some are tough - like the freak, yet still want to kick back and enjoy themselves at home in normal clothes. Yes I agree entirely with XENOPHONZ post. Lab equipment etc. Love esther

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hauksdottir posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 11:19 PM

LOL! I'm thinking of Vicky in stiletto heels crawling througn the ventilator shafts trying not to get her knees dirty or bang her sword on the walls. Carolly


XENOPHONZ posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 11:30 PM

They don't have boring mundane lives like the rest of us.

True.

Poser people are the hollowed-out virtual containers of our fantasies. They can be what we wish that we were. Reflections of glory -- like we have never actually seen in real life. Or they can be extensions of our own bitterness. We can project whatever we like onto them.

On the other hand, they can also be electronic Barbies......with no particular meaning at all. Or perhaps just a way to help pay the rent.

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XENOPHONZ posted Wed, 26 January 2005 at 11:32 PM

"pay the rent" -- that's pretty mundane. I think that I can hear Victoria and Michael calling me.........

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