What Im trying to do is make a helmet conform to the poser male.I know that I can make it a smart prop and parent it to the head. Iam just practing in making conforming objects. THe prob Iam having is this. 1 when I edit the joint parms, the helmet doesn't want to follow the position of the figure that it is to conform to. See the attached Picks. Phil C if you can help me I would really appreciate it.By the way its your fault that iam having so much trouble. I love your stuff and decided I need to learn your tricks.