Hi, I had hoped to be the first to post our news to the forums. My apologies that was not possible. The following is our recent update for those who have not been able to read other threads: Curious Labs is announcing today that we expect to ship the next version of our flagship product -- Poser 6-- in Spring of 2005. We have some very special promotions coming soon that should excite our most avid users and potential new buyers of Poser. More details will be sent out soon! If you wish to be the first to know, you can sign up to get our Curious Labs News at www.curiouslabs.com. We will send updates first through out direct email news, then post to forums 24 hours later so if you want to be the first to know, sign up. I know many have specific questions. I apologize I can't yet offer more details now. But soon. With kind regards, Katherine

WHOA!...good goosebumps.. :-)

Does anybody know anything about a realease of poser 6 version. To my surprise, i saw the product for sale on the PC connection magazine for a 199.95. It saids that poser 6 is capable of pretty much the same thing 5 is..But i went to curious labs, all excited to see the product and nothing...i also went to pc connection website and nothing there either... Does anybody knows anything...could this been a mistake of the magazine. The new box of poser has to silos of a man and a woman...and it says pretty clearly POSER 6 HELP!!!!..I'm all confused now ------------------------- this was my post on the forum...i guess...i got some answers...but how come pc connection is already selling the product?

It was a mistake from the magazine ... It accidently released the ad too early.

" HELP!!!!..I'm all confused now" Well, you just heard it from the proverbial "horses mouth" above. P6 will be released in Spring 2005.. It's not available yet.

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Ahh... a new version of reality on its way - that's good news :o) :] Fish (one of those 'most avid user' thingies you mentioned)

Cool and beautiful today here in Los Angeles. I am hoping it rains more before winter is over, however. ::::: Opera :::::

@operaguy One of the all time highest excitement generating threads in this forum was called "California Dreaming." You might check it out... [grin & wink to the old timers]

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Hi lluviaonix, We had some catalog erros recently and I apologize for causing some confusion - Poser 6 is expected to release in Spring 2005. But, we'll have some promotions in place soon and I will definitely let you know more details as they are finalized. We'll email to the CL News group, then post to the forums the next day with all updates moving forward. Again my apologies for the confusion! With kind regards, Katherine

Bring it on. From another avid user. I haven't been to LA -- or California for that matter -- in over 10 years.

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So that $50 gift cert that i got for signing up for the newsletter back in Dec will still be good when poser6 comes out. thats what i was hoping for :)

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ohhhh drools I can't wait for it to come out.

I wonder if there will be an upgrade from P5, or maybe a discount for owners of P5 ??

Poser 6?? Good grief, I just got 5 (finally! :) and am just getting used to it... and I really like it... but will watch what this new version does... (then there is the problems of the costly new Vue 5 Infinite !!) But... no matter what version.. LONG LIVE POSER! :) and just FYI, Curious Labs... folks over there are already asking if Vue 5 I will be able to importe pz3's from Poser 6... ?

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

will check out 'dreamin' this is one of my fav times of year, bougenvilla riorous red soon and jacardia blossoms about to erupt within weeks. I live on an avenue lined with aprox 100 jacardias (a kind of orchid tree) and when they bloom the entire street is filled with blue blossoms. Painters set up their eaaels in front of my house to capture the outrageous color. ::::: Opera :::::

Hmpfh... if they have to advertise it, then it's probably no good or you don't need it anyway.

You know what is right for you. I know what is right for me.

"Hmpfh... if they have to advertise it, then it's probably no good or you don't need it anyway." Huh??

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Hmpfh... if they have to advertise it, then it's probably no good or you don't need it anyway.

I need it. And I'm confident that it's going to be very good.

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"Hmpfh... if they have to advertise it, then it's probably no good or you don't need it anyway."

~eye roll~..If they didn't advertise it how the hell are we supposed to know about it???? Click on there website on a daily basis! ROFL Oh by the way, I need it, and I have confidence it will be good ;P

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I say its gonna rock.

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March 21 is the first day of spring, and my birthday. So the ad might not have been so far off.

Go tell any mac user that his puter sucks because Apple has very intensive and also often very agressive advertising campaigns. Ahh...we'll see. And yesterday, that plugin to transpose qPoser files to C4D was announced. Works with Poser5. If I remember well, it should have been included. And in a few weeks, it'll be probably useless in Poser6. Life can be cruel.

I have tried prudent planning long enough. From now I'll be mad. (Rumi)

Ahh, the lure of the new shiny thing.
I hope that you won't be disappointed, the last time was just too double plus ungood for my taste.

You know what is right for you. I know what is right for me.

"One of the all time highest excitement generating threads in this forum was called "California Dreaming." And one that ruined that song for me. Just hoping the new version isn't history repeating itself. Lots of people sure got the screw.

Ahh, the lure of the new shiny thing. Yeah. It sure beats the lure of eternal pessimism. At least for some of us.

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Just a thought..can we avoid the I WANT POSER 5 RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER SECOND, GIVE IT TO ME NOW silliness we had prerelease on 5? man, that got old..of course, I'm still trying to figure out 4..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

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P5 was never disappointing for me and I am sure P6 won't either. So, gimme ... I give you money in exchange ;-)

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I WANT POSER 5....uh, I mean Poser 6......RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER SECOND, GIVE IT TO ME NOW!!!!!!!

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...I think P5 rocks. Where do I sign up for P6?

It wasnt an advertising in PC connection which by the way is mac and PC...but mosttly mac, since they purchased mac warehouse a couple of years ago. The product was on sale on the magazine for 199.95, but curious labs already explained that it was a mistake on the catalog. PC connection is a catalog not a magazine. I'm glad we will have a new version of poser, but i'm dying to see what its capabilities are ...i mean new...and why the curious lab website doesnt say anything about it yet...If it was surprise PC connection ruinned it, at least for me. thank you

...I don't know what their thought process is on it, but if I were in CL's shoes I might not wanna let the competition know my plans until the last minute. Who knows. Either way I'll buy it.

I officially announce that Winter has ENDED.... let spring commence, Now wheres my P6?????? Let's hope theres a Poser5 Upgrade.... ohh i can't wait... Im so excited i might pee myself...

Getting old and still making "art" without soiling myself, now that's success.

poser6 and vue5Infinite, an exciting year for sure :)

Poser 6-- in Spring of 2005? How much? lol. I realy want to update from P4.

This should be interesting. More and varied ways to render NVIATWAS, or variants thereof. And I'll bet you any money thet the included models will still be "Horse's Ass" Judy and Don. And the P4 people. Not that I care, as long as the renderer is decent. IMO, P5 rocks. I sincerely hope P6 rocks harder. :)

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Wonder what upgrade from P5 -> P6 will cost??? I JUST bouhtt P5 after putting it off forever - now I have to upgrade - just upgraded Cinema 4D, LightWave, and Vue 5 Professinal (just pre-ordered to Vue 5 Infinite. OK - so I'm a software junkie! Jim

I seem to recall that the word "NVIATWAS" is Swahili for "baboon-faced eater of python dung" -- or something like that. I really need to brush up on my Swahili.........

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I'm saving up for P6. I've heard too many different stories about P5. Staying clear of that one. The P4 renders comeout kinda cheesy looking. Can't wait to see what P6 looks like. :)

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As being one of the 1st to buy poser 5, I am extremely reluctant to jump on the bandwagon when poser 6 comes out. I will have to see if it has significant differences be- tween 5 and and 6 to make it worth it. Corrections to the firefly rendering engine would be worth it. Open GL would be a plus (though it would mean changing my video card). Objects/figures loading faster would be great. Anyway, I will wait and count to 30 (days) and see what materializes in the forum and I definately wont buy the presale. (g) I still have great hopes that they have made signifgicant improvements to it.

I hope it won't effect using V3 or M3? If so, then I'll just stick to P4 so I can use V3/M3. Just have to wait and I see. I never rush to buy anything. I wait and see what other users have to say before buying. I learned that the hardway lol.

I tried to sign up for the letter in Dec. Didn't work, I didn't get the $50 gift cert. CL won't answer my emails. After buying P4,P5 and Shade, you would think that would be enough to at least hear something from CL. CL seems to be the only addy on the whole net that doesn't return mail. OH, well, guess they lost a sale. No way I'll pay that price for a bug fix.

So just to be safe, when is Poser 6.4 due out? I'll consider purchasing that one and just avoid the stress. :OP

"No way I'll pay that price for a bug fix." You seem to know at least one thing the rest of us don't :( Cliff PS any chance you have a spamblock between CL and you?

I tried to sign up for the letter in Dec. Didn't work, I didn't get the $50 gift cert. CL won't answer my emails. CL seems to be lax on their site support. No way I'll pay that price for a bug fix. Curious to know the price of this new puppy? :)

I was wondering who was going to be the first to get nasty. Who won?

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...I have complaints about P5 too, but we shouldn't lose sight of the price point of Poser... a hundred fifty bucks or so for a first time user. That's dirt cheap for a 3d app. If P6 is buggy when it first comes out and it's still in that price range, no prob here. They'll patch it. I'll be bummed if CL ever sells to a business man whose plan is to raise the price to five hundred bucks knowing full well he'll lose a bunch of customers, but have fewer complaints to deal with on about the same revenues.

a hundred fifty bucks or so for a first time user.

For P6? Kidding? I'll be there then! Even if I have to stand in line at the store. Two weeks worth of paychecks. For me anyway. Maybe one week if I can get overtime, when it comes out. I hope that will be about right come selling time. Right in my price range. If it's five hundred or more then that will leave me out until it goes on sale. lol. ;) Message edited on: 02/01/2005 20:24

So, gimme ... I give you money in exchange ;-)

I have shiny beads ... do they accept shiny beads?

.... if I were in CL's shoes I might not wanna let the competition know my plans until the last minute.

What competition? Aside from DAZ|Studio, which doesn't even have IK yet, let alone the content-creation tools ....

...I agree with ya there dragon. I was just being deferential to the daz cheerpeople ;) D|S isn't even a player yet.

OT: I can't stand D/S. I think it's a POS. Doesn't even work on my machine unles I upgrade my graphics card. which I can't afford to do just yet. I dont see anything special about it, give me poser anyday of the week.

Hi zippyozzy, I'll check with Customer Service tomorrow and find out what we can do to fix the email issue. I do know that there are some servers that block our emails from a spam filter. Do you think that could be possible? I've sent you a private IM to request your contact details to help us resolve. With kind regards, Katherine

Katherine, ??? I think you got the wrong poster. I'm not a CS member. :)

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beryld is the poster who hasn't received your email.

"PS any chance you have a spamblock between CL and you?" If there is, why would it be just the one addy. Don't get me wrong on the product, I love my P5 and could never go back to P4. I would think P6 would be better. I'm not being nasty about the software, it's customer service I have lost respect for. "You seem to know at least one thing the rest of us don't :(" Just read all the interviews, CL has stated that P6 is a bug fix with a couple of extras including the one room everyone does not want, Content Paradise. They don't seem to have a problem taking my money on the net and sending sale slips.

Hi zippyozzy and beryld, Sorry, I did scroll a bit too hi to capture the name. Thank you for the correction. beryld, I will be sending you an IM shortly. Kind regards, Katherine

Now that's funny.

I have shiny beads ... <<

Ooohhh shiny beads! Any blue ones? I'll trade you with half a hairy cat! ;o)

Which half?

"Only $14.99 for a two-record set? Two records! Oh Zoidberg, at last you're becoming a crafty consumer! Hello? I'll take eight!"

What $50 gift certificate? Wonder why I never get emails from CL, only hear about stuff by chance here. All my products are registered and I haven't changed my email. And I did sign up for the newsletter a while back. Marque

I think it was more the Shade crowd that heard about it. It was during the talk of CL's first Shade Content CD.

typo on my part that shoulda been CL not CS lol. :)

I have shiny beads ... << I hope they're not "Jerry beads!" :-

I have no idea. What are "Jerry beads"?

(I hope this isn't one of those questions I'll regret asking later.)

ROFLMAO!!! Hmmm ... all it would take for you to know the answer to that question is to watch the Jerry Springer show, just once. And I guarantee you'll never watch it again! ROFL

Ah. Culture.

"If there is, why would it be just the one addy."

Having to guess here but - because one of the ways spamblocks works is to assiciate addys as being a source of spam. Then block them.

"No way I'll pay that price for a bug fix."
"You seem to know at least one thing the rest of us don't :("
"Just read all the interviews"

Which one gives the price, please? (the price you're unwilling to pay). Is there no room for them to make useability improvements to existing features as well as bug fixes?

Personally I hope CL change their policy of overcharging Europeans :)

Cheers,

Cliff

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I have a strong suspicion that if it wasn't for at least 2 catalogs advertising it already, CL would be saying absolutely nothing about even a hint of a whisper of an inkling of a ghost of a due date, let alone specs or capabilities. If the cat is out of the bag, you can always tempt him back... but if the whole family has clawed loose, you have but 2 legs to their dozens... in all directions and up the tree. Meanwhile, I'm glad that it is coming and will be all ears. Carolly

Please CL Guys & Girls ignore every post that has anything like "release it now" or "I want it now" or anything else similar & just get it working & mostly bug free before you release it. I hope the guys with the money saw what happened last time with EgiSys & learn something, like release it when it's ready not when you're desperate for cash. Anyway good luck with the new version & fingers crossed I'll have enough money saved by the time it's released :D

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"Which one gives the price, please? (the price you're unwilling to pay). The mag in post #3. There was also a price list in another thread taken from a collage supply mag, somewhere here. I may not have calculated the upgrade price, What, %50, still will need to think long on it. I never said, "there no room for them to make useability improvements to existing features as well as bug fixes?" But read RDNA's interview to see where I'm coming from. More or less stated it is a fix. Maybe there are those that want the content room. I guess it won't matter, someone will find what to toast to get rid of it, like we do now. Now if there is some proper lighing, I may change my mind.

Shiny beads? Damn rich ppl....I only has dull beads :'-(

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"Which one gives the price, please? (the price you're unwilling to pay)." "I may not have calculated the upgrade price, What," Exactly. You don't know the price for the upgrade (although you do know a price for the full product as quoted in a catalogue which erroneously listed it. So that price is PROBABLY right for that product to that audience). "I never said, "there no room for them to make useability improvements to existing features as well as bug fixes?"" No, you said: "No way I'll pay that price for a bug fix." Without knowing the price or, it now seems, whether there's more than bug fixes in it. I'm trying to understand your position here. I'm a pedant - I can only get the information I'm given and work from that, so everything I say is base don what I read. I remember the first release of Poser 5 - I'm pretty sur eI had one of the first in the country, which means I got stung on the price as well as getting a far too early for release version. I don't think CL need a "well done" pat on the back at this point, and it's a little late to be suggesting features for Poser 6. that time wa probably when they were requesting user feedback on what we'd like to see in Poser 6. However, I don't think it's QUITE the time to string them up based on pricing we don't know for a specification we don't know. Just my two penneth - I can EASILY understand anyone not wanting to upgrade "at any price" based on the Poser 5 release/fix schedule, and I can EASILY understand anyone who loves Poser 5 (like I do now it works) looking hopefully towards "even better" with Poser 6. I just couldn't understand reasoning based on facts that we don't have. Sorry :( Cheers, Cliff

CL, Please include better and more human figures with this version.

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PapaBlueMartin? check this link - http://www.poserforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=2418&highlight= I dunno what is going in from Sixus1, but rest assured.. it's from a good source!

Wow. That's good to hear. Thanks for the link, Khai. Sixus said, "our involvment is not on any monsters. We all gotta grow, ya know." I'm glad to hear that. Those guys make some terrific content. I'm just not a big monster fan. They scare me ;)

Oh my my! Now, if they leave Posette and Dork, and Judy and Don, and just =add= more content.... WHEEEEE!

Will P6 be coming out on the Mac at the same time, or will we be waiting like last time?

SIGH and I just got P5 and used my $50 gift cert. to get it. Oh well, I guess I'll just do like I did with P5 and let the "I want it now" crowd beta test it for me :-)

Personally I hope CL change their policy of overcharging Europeans Sure -- as soon as Europe lowers their tax rates.

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Let me rephrase then - their policy of overcharging before value addd tax (which gets added on top!) Cheers, Cliff

If you look at the Sixus1 project human figures, they have gotten better and better over time. Quite honestly, Adam2 is one of my favorite figures. I can't wait to see what figures they've come up with :) As a side note, I hope there is an upgrade version to P6 from P5 since I didn't buy P5 all that long ago...

before value addd tax (which gets added on top!) High tax rates drive prices up all the way around. There's a domino effect.

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I preordered Poser5 early enough to get a numbered, autographed box. Even though P5 had some early problems (I didn't have nearly as many as most people even though I was running WinME), I'm still willing to grab P6 right away if it has any exciting new features. Of course, the feature I was most excited about when Poser5 was advertised was the Face Room and I gave up on it a long time ago. Here's hoping P6 comes out before the $50 coupon expires!

Jerry Springer? Why would anyone need to watch Jerry Springer when they are in the forums here. Jerry Springer has no excitement at all compared to the forums. Fights happen quicker here. Heck, you don't even need to have a reason to beat the hell out of people here. LOL

"Heck, you don't even need to have a reason to beat the hell out of people here." And WHAT EXACTLY do you mean by that????? Heeheee :) Cliff

See what I mean? ROFLMAO That was perfect timing Cliff. LOL...

hmm, how Jerry Springer got caughtup in this thread is beyond me lol. As long as P6 in my price range I'll buy it. :P Cheers

No worries LawnDartLawnDart - I'd rather a bit of humour amongst real discussion than the more volatile threads that can happen from time to time Cheers, Cliff

.... it all started with the beads .... ROFL I'm going to get it also. I've had every release since version 1, I'm not gonna stop now. 8-)

Well I just hope they fix the "black spot render" problem that was to have been fixed in p5.. which I am just now finding and trying to learn a work around...

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

I want Poser 6 now! Now! I don't care if it's actually a late-Beta version. I want it now! I would rather have a buggy version than no version at all. I want to pay a company so I can test their software for them. I want to download a new service pack every day so the software will work as promised. I want to have to post messages in the forums about typos in the manual. And I want to pay a "special" pre-order price for it. I don't want to wait 3 months to see if I can save $150 by buying it from Amazon.com. In other words, let's give CL enough time to fully finish and test Poser 6. And even then, we may want to wait until Service Pack 1 (or 2) until purchasing. --John

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Lyne:- is that the black-spot/mottled pattern when using raytraced shadows? I think one of the main fixes is to decrease the minimum shading rate until that goes away, IIRC (which I may not). You could also look at the possibility you've got some self-shading happening and adjust the shadow bias? Cheers, Cliff

lyne, i assume the work-around you are speaking of involves scaling up? And/or turning down min shading rate as who3d suggested? ::::: Opera :::::

Who3D, what is self-shading? ::::: Opera :::::

self-shading is a problem common to ray-tracing engines where the math, due to minor imperfections, results in an item shading itself incorrectly. Imagine a floor that has "cast shadow" turned on. Now imagine that the shadow it casts falls on itself... Most render engines that I know of have a "bias" setting of some sort that allow you to add or subtract a variable amount to the "at surface" to start casting the shadow at. So the shadow falls BELOW the object by x amount not actauuly ON the object. Cheers, Cliff

Dang! Typoman is out in force tonight :( Cliff

No it is not self shading... and I found the work around to work perfectly! It is when one sided mesh is used, I believe. It is only on plants with flat single surfaces so to speak.. and it is NOT just the fire fly, or ray trace... I used the plain old poser 4 render, and then fire fly without ray trace, etc.. before I found the work around... it is simply the way that P5 READS and APPLIES the textures... there is a fault in there.. The work around is: 1- Plug the texture into an Alternate Diffuse Node 2- Unplug the texture from default Node 3- set default diffuse Node to a value of 0 and thought it sounds strange, and I am not a programmer, this fix works perfectly - to allow the maps to show up properly no matter what the lighting or render mode is! :) I am a happy camper now. I just hope that P6 (a year later maybe! ;) will allow me to save time and not have to "fix" all the map settings for the plants I use.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

Yes ... some weirdness with P5's default diffuse shader has been noted before. I often use the alternate channel myself, especially with transmapped items/materials.

I had to wait a long time and for when I went back into education before buying P5 because of the high price of Poser in the UK. I do hope they will give it to us on a par with the pricing in the US, but as was seen with the release of Shade the special deals being done in the US were not reflected in their European sales. Catlin

Lyne you could write a python script to swap the nodes over, or if Ockham isn't busy he might be persuaded to give it a go.

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I have no idea how to write a python script.. never went there! :) But it's not so hard to unplug, change the numbers and plug in... I also have found with trying to use a Python script in P5 (one to get rid of all the lights at once so you can start over) - that the added python will not stay ON THE BUTTON LIST...and may or may not work! I found my P5 locking up on this particular thing, so gave up on pythons. Sorry.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

Maybe the light script was written for ppp? I've had problems with some scripts like that, but the ones written specifically for Poser5 haven't caused me any major worries. Hogwarden's python library program comes in very handy for pinning scripts to the button list so they stay where you put them.

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