Forum: Bryce


Subject: Problem with tree...Wip

CrazyDawg opened this issue on Feb 02, 2005 ยท 10 posts


CrazyDawg posted Wed, 02 February 2005 at 11:58 PM

Well i started to put this together. then i noticed one of my trees is missing some of the trunk. i have tried moving the tree around, lowering it but it stays much the same. I would like to have a few trees close to the camera to give the view of looking from a forrest. I have seen other images with trees close together to form a thick forrest scene but how can you do one if your trees look like some wood cutter took to them with a chain-saw. Hope someone can help with this little annoying problem or i'll have to scrape doing the scene and go back to barren lanscapes.

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Zhann posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 12:16 AM

Did you just dupe the tree? sometimes Bryce doesn't like duplicated trees, but it's alright if each tree is a new tree....and some images use a 2D plane with trees on them for the mid to background trees. The more trees you use the more you will run into this problem....=(

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FuzzyShadows posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 12:22 AM

Select the problem tree, and click on the edit button to change the settings. I believe you can change any of the settings, and when you come back to the scene all should render fine. I usually just bump the "randomness" setting a notch in the tree lab. Works for me.


CrazyDawg posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 12:36 AM

Zhann that was a new model. I had the same problem when i duped a tree so i removed it then used another model. I was hoping to use tree models close to the camera because all up if i did things correct i wouldn't have more than 10-15 trees in the image. Fuzzy i did like you suggested and i still had the bottom part of the tree missing :( Looks like trees don't like me so i'll try working on a boring barren land scene.

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Flak posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 1:11 AM

Can you do a screengrab of the tree trunk texture for us? edit - Oh wait up, don't worry, looked more closely at the foreground tree, and it isn't just a cut off trunk - looks like a bit has been cut out (there's a bit of the side trunk going below the cutoff) so its not a texture thing.

Message edited on: 02/03/2005 01:14

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Gog posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 7:00 AM

Are you on 5.01 or just 5?

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Incarnadine posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 7:14 AM

CD- I did a research thread on this a while back. When identical (i.e. duplicate) trees overlap or are too close visually (at any depth into the scene) this will occur. Select the conflicting trees one at a time and alter a setting slightly (I usually use the random by one or two points) and it should work. If you still have problems, send me a copy of your file so I can see better what is happening. Richard

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CrazyDawg posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 7:50 AM

Thanks all. I didn't give up on it. took some doing but after ajusting the radom setting in the tree lab up and down i finally found the setting it needed. Now my tree looks whole again :)

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Claymor posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 8:57 AM

I usually can get them to fix by just moving them further away from their nearest neighbor. I never get the problem with a single tree


Incarnadine posted Thu, 03 February 2005 at 10:13 PM

It is related to the visual overlap of the metaball structure of two trees. The trees don't have to actually physically overlap just be close visually. If the trees are identical the renderer get confused and this happens.

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