Look at the provided image of the animation palette. I seem to remember that each bodypart element came with arrows on the left and when clicked exposed the parameters for that part such as twist, side to side, x,y,z etc. Now they appear gone. I tried reinstalling a fresh copy and updating to the Curious patxh does not solve this. How the hell am I suppsed to fix a given parameters key frames if I cannot access them? Holly cow could a recent windows critical update have screwed this up? JanP