I see a lot of threads here about different versions of Vue, but I hope you folks don't mind me starting another. I'm a disgrunted Bryce5 user; actually, I've gotten weary of the limitations of Bryce, it has stifled my creativity. A long time ago I tried Vue4 and I was very impressed, and the Vue5 pics I see in the gallery here are even more impressive. So, I am thinking of buying Vue5. Or Vue5 Pro (Infinite is a little too pricy for me). But I would like the Botanica and LightTune modules, which if I buy with Vue5 adds up to about $350. OR, I could just buy Vue5 Pro that has those modules and it would be $400. Anyone know if those modules, if bought seperately, are shipped or have to be downloaded off e-on's site? I hate dl-ing big files online. Any suggestions about choosing between Vue5 and Vue5 Pro would be appreciated, since I'm new to both versions. Thanks, and glad to soon be among the Vue community ;-) Doug