Well, the axe fell this week in our department and a man who has been with us for the past 5 years, with ~30 years electrical experience, and who I worked part of a shift with for 4-8 hours a night for the last 2 years was let go ... oh, I'm sorry ... forgot the PC term ... he was a victim of an RIF (Reduction-in-Force). Anyway ... I don't want to get started, so I'll just leave it at that. Not really feeling the joy right now so I'm just gonna go sit over to the side for a while. Be back when my heads in it again. -=>Donald