I pre-ordered P6, and I preordered P5. I have the idea that anyone who has a stake (as a tool-user or hobbyist) in a commercial program almost has a duty to upgrade. If we don't subsidize the development of improvements, what do we will think is going to happen? That the government will take over Poser and code a non-profit version? That said, has anyone ever seen a company put their main software product up for sale (even if for pre-ordering) without telling what it really does? Without a "What's New" list? Does anyone know why CL is doing this? Maybe the answer appeared in a previous post about P6 and I missed it (who can read them all, there are like SO MANY!?) Anyway, I can't think of a good reason. Anybody? I honestly would like to know.