Forum: Carrara


Subject: Crash on window close in Mac

rfrew opened this issue on Jan 13, 2001 ยท 8 posts


rfrew posted Sat, 13 January 2001 at 11:20 AM

I have a repeated problem in the Render window where Carrara crashes w/ a type-2 error. It will render just fine but if I try to close any of the rendered images, it immediately crashes. These are not complex images and I have 90K of memory allocated to Carrara. I'm running Carrara 1.0.181 and OS 9.0.4. Any ideas?


DigitalDream#3 posted Sat, 13 January 2001 at 10:43 PM

What is your clock speed and available RAM?


rfrew posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 9:17 AM

I am running a 300MHz G-3 with 128K of memory. I have allocated about as much memory as I can.


DigitalDream#3 posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 9:29 AM

Try are-install, maybe that will work.


DigitalDream#3 posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 9:30 AM

Sorry, re-install.


mclarsen posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 1:27 PM

Not to rain any parades, but you will not be able to eliminate the Type 2 errors completely. There are less of them with the patch installed but, it is still next to impossible to keep Carrara stable on the Mac. I have been trying for over a year to keep it running in a productive sense on 3 different Macs. There are periods of clarity and smoothness, but then the simplest things will send it into fits of type 2 and type 3 errors. It doesn't matter how much ram you give the application; in one case, I have given it 320mb of ram with no improvement. After keeping track of the activities that cause the crashes/freezes, it is obvious to me that how Carrara accesses memory or a bug in how it utilizes that memory is the source of Mac Carrara problems. The system version impacts it as well. The most stable version seems to be 8.51. Unfortunately, I prefer system 9.04, and that is less friendly with Carrara. I'm now installing system 9.1 on one machine and will test Carrara on that - fingers crossed. If you haven't already, you can turn off all extensions, except the ones needed for basic functionality, turn off virtual memory, allocate the maximum memory you can to Carrara and don't run any other programs at the same time. You then may have a chance of keeping it stable, but you'll also have to trash the preferences when the type 2 errors start again. My personal opinion, backed by 15 years of Mac fanaticism and tech support for the graphics industry, is that Carrara is broken (or was never finished) on the Mac and needs to be redone. The new owners are facing a real challenge in this regards, because of the imminent release of OSX.


MarkBremmer posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 2:09 PM

Hmmmm. I'm running OS8.6 and Carrara almost never crashes. Just lucky I guess. It's definatly a system configuration thing but, what it is, will probably be pretty aggravating to get to the bottom of. I've had the dubious good fortune (lol) of having a system set up that completely disallows a particular Aladdin Stuffit operation from working on my boxes. Aladdin ackowledged that that happens a few set-ups and that they are completly in the dark as to why and we're collectivly trying to figure it out. It's winding up looking like disk driver incompatiblity issue. Maybe you've got something like that with Carrara. Soooo, make sure to visit the Eovia site and log your problem with their on-line form. Maybe Antoine and crew have a fix or workaround. The MC site used to have their FAQ section which helped resolved a couple of issues that I had with Carrara. Hopefully, Eovia still has all that information. Good luck Mark






DigitalDream#3 posted Mon, 15 January 2001 at 5:04 PM

The absolute best for system conflict's is Conflict Catcher. I am able to run all of my extensions with no problem. Also try Ram Doubler. I myself very rarely have any crash's with Carrara other than the BIG one when I do some boolean's.