On the left is a photo taken at 2400ISO in the dark to avoid flash and ghosts on glass caused by reflections when taken in the light. At the same time of night I took the one on the right using the flash at 600ISO.

I want my result to have all of the color on the right with no flash like the one on the left. Using Photoshop, how would I go about doing this?

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You didn't say what kind of camera you had...it might be easier to adjust your camera. IF this is an aquarium of sorts, I took plenty of photos of my (SW) aquariums just using the light on top. As to your question...you should be able to change the temperature of the color in the photo on the left but you can't do anything about the lack of detail in the water, methinks.

BTW, if you can take the flash off your camera and just hold it to the side with a free hand, you'll lose the reflection. Also, if you can't do that, just stand at an angle to the glass so it bounces away from the censor.

Meanwhile...a quick (!) adjustment on your photo.

how about taking the photo durring the day, with the windows and curtins open to let in the natural light of the sun? Everything looks better in natural light. E.D.

Fun to have a go with. I'm impressed that you got the two images in near-perfect registration. Couldn't get a satisfactory result though :(

Thanx Guys, the reason I posted to Photoshop is because I wanted to get the colors (colours?) of the one where the flash is showing (right) on the one where the flash is off (left). I was thinking I might be able to do this in Photoshop. I have three aquariums, this one is converted to a Vivarium (half terrarium half aquarium) for my herp's (North American Bull Frogs). With all the curtains closed in the day time there is still too much reflection which causes ghost images to appear on the surface of the glass. Furthermore, the frogs are rather shy and nocturnal and refuse to come out during the daytime.

I am using a Hewlett Packard Photosmart R607 4.1 MP. I use a tripod, and set the camera to "dawn" or "dusk" to get shots without flash or use "action" and turn the flash off.

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In these shot I did not crop off the bottom, so that I could better demonstrate what a Vivarium is. However what I'm trying to do is to get better color like on the left, without using the flash, like I did on the right.

The last shot taken in the wee hours of the morning was the one on the left with the flash, the one on the right was taken approximately 10 seconds prior to the one on the left (the one with the flash). Once the flash was done, the frogs were gone for the night.

I could use different lighting and so forth with some expense for the shot, but I would prefer to use Photoshop to regain my colors lost by doing shots in the dark.

If this is impossible to obtain I'll ask Retrocity to move the thread over to the Photography Forum where the kind folks there might be better suited to guiding me with my needs.

Thanx,

Cryptojoe - Rhino Coord.

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...but when the fogger comes on the mood becomes so primordial, it makes for one badassed diorama.

Picture a scene from one of those old Godzuki Movies! Only in color instead of this limelight looking thing I've got going on here...

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Well, IMHO, cause I'm both somewhat versed in photography as well as Photoshop, it looks like you'll need to find some way to use flash to get what you want (instead of relying on Photoshop). For one thing, you're exposure is going to be too long to use natural light and any movement will be blurred (the tripod doesn't stop the fish...wink). If it were me, I'd look at 2 possibilities: (1) putting some angle on the flash to glass and see if the glare problem gets cured. or (2) take a light reading and get your camera exposure set for the electrical lighting in the room so that you can come into the room at night, flip the switch and click the camera (before everyone gets too startled). Looking at your camera, though, there appears to be no manual exposure settings (and no 2400 ISO setting according to the HP site). If you MUST have a head-on shot, then you may have better luck fixing an angled shot in Photoshop (with the perspective tool) than fixing light. Good luck!

Yeah, the top photo looks nice. I actually like the "warmer" lighting not achieved with the flash. But you could make the flash lighting warmer easily in Photoshop. BTW, what's the fogger for? (I know what a vivarium is)

Ahhh! A fogger, besides giving really cool effects helps fool the crickets so that they can't see the frogs coming after them! Like dogs frogs don't have keen eye sight. Actually they cannot see the prey in front of themselves. However their olfactory glands are about 300 times more sensitive than humans. This is how they catch their prey. With the fog helping to obscure their view, more crickets get eaten than get away.

Of course in a vivarium little if anything (or anyone) goes to waste, the carnivorous fish like Bala Sharks and Cichlids are quick to snatch up all those which wind up in the water, but they already get more than their share with the dead crickets that don't make it into the tanks alive.

I raise and feed about 1000 crickets into this tank every month. The ones that die and are cleaned out of the hopper once a month go off to be freeze dried, then ground into special blends of fish foods I make up.

BTW: I thought the max ISO was 2,400. Sorry if my statements sound boisterous or misleading, the manual for the damned thing is smaller than my palm and I have difficulties with my eyes.

I suppose for the rest of this I'll ask Retrocity to move the thread over to the Photo Forum where it belongs or just start another thread there. Thanx for all your help.

Joe

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All done Joe! hope you can get the answers/input you need. :) retrocity

Nice set up you have here - sorry I can't offer any suggestions. You can't separate flash and camera so without other lighting I'm a bit stuck.

Close ups with camera against the glass is all I can think of.

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Thats one I haven't tried yet...

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maybe you could set up some shop clamp lamps with a homemade diffuser over it to cut the brightness & not scare the frogs... or with a blue or red lightbulb? you can also use plain white poster board to bounce light back at the fishtank :]

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"...or with a blue or red light bulb?" I tried this, the red made one of them look like a very fat madam, and the blue? Well, the result reminded me of a Gay Bar back in Ann Arbor called the Blue Frog... ...great for laughs but just not my type...

"...you can also use plain white poster board to bounce light back at the fish tank." There we go! Now thats sound advice. I'm not really a photographer by any stretch but for what I need to learn, Renderosity is the place to be!

Thanx again Cynlee if there's anything I can do to help you stop by the Rhino forum and let me know...

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