Hello there, I have some questions and need some suggestions. Hope you dont laugh at me ! :P Okay here we go - as I know every 3d program have their own render engine and its determining result of the image after final render. So - this means exactly same scene looks different for example, after a Bryce render and a Cinema 4D render. Same scene, same textures, same light conditions and different result. Don't worry I will not ask why ! :D But... When I create a scene on Bryce and add a radial light with cast shadows function, render slows down dramatically. When I do the same thing in Cinema 4D nothing happens, I mean its not slowing down. Imagine whats happening when I create a radial light dome on Bryce for simulate radiosity ! I know that Lightwave can render global illumination scenes in minutes. It took days, even weeks in Bryce or Vue. But one of my friends told me that the render engines of Bryce and Vue are more powerful than high-end applications like Cinema 4D or Lightwave - and thats the reason of this programs success. Is it right or they are just easy to use ? Frankly its very easy to setup a scene in Bryce or Vue. Thats why I use Cinema 4D for only modeling... So should I keep using Bryce and Vue for setup and final render my scenes or should I jump to a high end application to make eveything in same program. I have Cinema 4D, I am planing to buy Lightwave 8.0... Thanks for taking time to read...