Since posts below touch on this, and it is an important subject, because so far, this forum has shown less fun, enthusiasm, posts and generally upbeat than the Bryce or other forums :/ 1) Work In Progress posting and feedback should be encouraged and not made to feel like pulling out a porno mag in front of your parents...cough ;) Folk posted about a WIP gallery, that's one idea but why not just post WIPs if you feel like it here, and have room for lots of constructive feedback on forums. 2) Avoid snobbery and arrogance. The price of a piece of software has a disgusting tendency to cause snobbery and few of us are superb naturally gifted artists. I don't give a rat's backside if you finger paint with acrylic or use Maya...have fun, enjoy it all, it's art, I hope to see you post wonders, but if you aren't DaVinci any sensible person will not be disappointed ;) Seen some gorgeous stuff done in Bryce 3, and crap with MAX3D. -Beware of inflated egos with Vue moving up market. -Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Beholders in Dungeons and dragons are brilliant but xenophobic monsters who have lots of eyes, who can see all around, tons of magical powers but are as pleasant to be around as a hungry pit bull with a fetish for chewing groins... 3)I personally do not have time or desire to spend very long on all projects: some I do, others I don't. I get ideas, I wish to work on them when they are fresh, and learn how to do new things. Dunno about you all but just fiddling around, working on things you learn with Vue. -Real Life...this places limits, and also gives different outlooks. -I spent three weeks building the Spaceport pic, 2days for The Legion. I like them both, not perfect, but enjoyed making them, outcome is good to ME and I learned a fair bit. I've only had Vue for a couple of months, much to learn! -Very very few artists are ever satisifed with their own work, because...we're artists ;)We make something and see flaws, or think of better ways...etc. You need to be able to say "Ok, that's good, I'll go with it". Feedback from others helps a ton because they often spot what you missed, or show new tricks, but that doesn't mean they are RIGHT. 4 HAVE FUN!, or as one of my favourite characters would say "STOP HITTING ME WITH THEM NEGATIVE WAVES, MORIARITY! ;) -Real life is enough of a damned downer for anyone, art is uplifting challenging, inspiring and a good challenge to work on. -I'm chronically ill in real life, and find digital art a great thing to work on, theraputic, positive, creative. There is a CRAP load more to complain about than if someone used the wrong setting in a render or if a pair of boobs gives you an unfair advantage.... ponders borrowing a pair of female breasts for a week...nah... ;) BE EXCELLENT TO ONE ANOTHER, DUDES! (P.S. yes I'm British so my sense of humour is distinctly warped, muahah)

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