Ok I am getting totally mad @ carrara. I made the earth out of 2 sphere primatives and a cloud primitive. I animate and let it render for 48+ hours. Well I look @ the render and there are little dots about 1 pixel big that periodically pop up. WHY???? They look like the dots you get on the horizon when you use an infinate plane. Ok I think maybe its just b/c I used primitives..so I convert them to Vertex objects...NOPE.. I still get those little dots. WHATS GOING ON? I am not a professional animator but its the little stuff like this that is makeing me really disappointed with this product. This little error = real money lost. I am starting to feel like I should go download blender accept I hate its intereface. AC needs to get his act together!!!! BTW: Mark I have about 10 things to post up in free stuff but 3 spots I am working on are awaiting client approval or runtimes to end...Im not posting the stuff while its being aired :)