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Dear fellow pre-orderer, You may already have noticed that you've paid $30 to much when pre-ordering Poser 6. This weekend the exact same deal is offered for $99 I'm not going to comment on this whole deal at all..... other then this: I've just contacted CL about this and I suggest every pre-order person do the same! Please keep it civilized though.....

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I got my P6 SE and the price did not bother me at all. I want CL team to get paid for their work and future development. So I ask you please be civilized. Their effort on discount was just for some special market and plan purpose for Poser's future investment and development. Thanks, GWeb

Yeah, I paid in full for the upgrade. I didn't care, and now that I played with it. I am very happy with the new features....Worth it. Runs cooler (Less stress on the CPU) than P5.

I also am very happy with the price that I paid, and the service that I got.

This sort or reminds me of the story that Jesus told about the laborer. Each laborer accepted a known wage for their work, and then when others arrived later for the same wage, the ones that had worked longer felt cheated, even though they had agreed to work for a certain amount. Personally, I'd have paid much more for Poser6, especially now that I have played with it a few days!

So if you are one of the ones that agreed on a certain price, enjoy Poser6 for that price. If you haven't purchased Poser6 yet, it sounds like now is your chance.

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Hm, with all the discounts that I got for the pre order I paid 81 EUR (about 100 USD) for the boxed version incl. sales taxes and shipping . Compared to 99 USD for a download version I still made a very good deal.

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"You may already have noticed that you've paid $30 to much when pre-ordering Poser 6." If you wait long enough ,EVERYTHING Will be free Pardon me but you went to the CL website You Saw what the priceswere at the time you paid anyway. presumably to be part of an exclusive club nobody tricked ,decieved or swindled you. Your are owed NOTHING the amount of time that pased before the price dropped is Not relevant this type of whining reminds me of the DAZ platinum club members who are upset that the great unwashed masses got to "Raid" their store at rock bottom prices last month. Welcome to Adulthood Get over it :-)

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I got a better price than that using that coupon they gave away at Christmas. And the coupon wouldn't apply to this offer, because it was for orders of $100 or more only.

Still, if I hadn't, I guess I would be kind of annoyed. Especially since they made this offer before most people who ordered the boxed version had even gotten their pre-orders!

LOL @ wolf359 ............ Good one, mate !!! And ......... very well stated, I might add! (especially the "Adulthood" part) ;=]

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Don't look at me, either. I paid less than that for my preorder, even after you factor in shipping.

I have to say, I think aeilkema has a very valid point, and all of you chastising him to be an "adult" is coming across as rather childish, IMO. How ironic =0

Seems rather odd that CL would do this, before a lot of pre-orderers even have their copies. Surely they realized that a lot of people would be ticked.

The first e-mail I got from them about P6 said:

Preordering Poser 6 now insures you that you will not only receive this Special Edition offer - a product valued at over $400 US, but that you will receive this offer priced at or below the order price of Poser 6 when shipping this spring.

IMO, this offer breaks that "at or below" promise. I wonder if it's a sign of desperation. Maybe all those CL bashers who warned that P6 would be $50 in the Amazon discount bin in a couple of months were right? :-P

Think what has been missed here is that offer doesn't appear to be the SE Pack. So no Shade, no Winter Queen - we paid slightly more for extra content...... I'm happy - well I will be when Customs clears it!

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No, click on the icon and read the details. Shade and the Winter Queen are included. This is the same thing the pre-orderers got.

This should upset anyone who paid $30 dollars or $50 dollars too much just a short time ago!

Some people must be so rich they couldn't find a better use of $50 bucks.

what a rip... Yes TIME is relevant. LOL. A few days cost me $50 bucks.

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I have to agree with aeilkema, Pollee and the others, you can't blame people who preordered for being upset at this. If this deal was offered two months from now, I could see "we've had two months to play with it" being a valid point. Some people haven't even gotten their orders yet and the price drops? - I'd be a little irked myself. I decided to pass up on the initial preorder to hear the first batch of opinions; I figured it was worth it to pay a little more later and better know what I was getting into. Might sound strange, but I don't think it's fair that people like me would get the chance to hear the first opinions AND get the sale and all those who put their faith in CL and jumped right in do not. Just my opinion of course, thanks for your time. Take care. SnowS

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You are entitled to an opinion. For some of us who valued Poser and its future development. We valued Poser more than the price. Honestly I think the low price is too ridiculously. For example, five thousand Poser is sold and CL would only get half million dollar income minus some taxes. I often wonder how they could keep their office and developer team in whole of the year with this low income. I really want CL to earn more than a million dollars so they may add some cool stuff in it for the next version. I would buy Poser 6 for a grand dollar but CL did not ask for that price. I really hope that they are doing ok with the budget they earned from Poser 6. MetaCreations is long gone.

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i got a real decent deal myself, but I still think this is a little bit of a slap in the butt to CLs dedicated customers. Will they give the folks that pre-ordered a refund? they surely should.

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Are you guys going to complain about the gas price in next day? >:-) GWeb

Poser is marketable and they may change the price as long as they see fit. It includes promo price for their special future plan for Poser. I do not like to hear people whine about the price because they do not understand about the economy system. In my opinion for Poser, it is not tend for home use, it is for special hobby and professional use for market or exhibitations. Poser is not cheap software because it did alot for customers' valuable projects. Bottomline, if you do not like the price then Poser is not for you.

i've been bitching about that since it hit $1.75. And I've done something about...I've cut my driving down to as little as necessary...no more joy rides. CL could have at least waited for 90 days or so before pulling this one...although its only good until tomorrow. I would assume most pre-order folks paid either $129, $89, or, if they had that coupon...$79 + shipping.... so the folks that have been the early adapters still got a good price, the good CL customers got even better...regular upgraders paid $129... another thing that has happened...CL did not sell all the pre-order packages of P6 SE..so they are trying to dump them now by offering this sale. Its kinda like luck of the draw...but it still leaves a funny taste in your mouth.

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its 2.26 here..and supposedly going up again..hate to see Memorial Day weekend... Well, all that cash I saved on Pre-ordering P6 is being sucked up at the pump....

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I think it's the P4/PP upgraders who really got screwed. The $99 price applies to all upgrades - P4, PP, or P5. That's a $50 difference for someone who preordered the P4 upgrade. A slap in the face indeed, considering that their ad said that the price would not be lower.

As for what Poser is for...I think it's clearly intended for home use. Maybe it wasn't originally, but look around. Look at most of the stuff at DAZ or in the RMP. It's not the kind of thing you need to make industrial videos or office presentations. Look at the bonus pack CL included. Was it a business suit for Jessi or James? No, it was a fantasy "winter queen" costume that's more likely to be used by home users, for fun, than at the office for marketing presentations.

Poser is cheap software. At $99, it costs as much as a couple of video games. And it's now competing with D|S, which is free.

I just paid $2.73 for gas... less than 20 miles from a network of refineries, so I think they hand-carry it locally. By the thimble. And it will go up. :( As for the discount price? It is a narrow window, only for downloaded version, so physical stocks aren't affected at all, and only for people who are signed up for Content Paradise, who may then look around and decide that the layout offers a chance for growth and exploration. Considering that most of the people preordering here were taking advantage of various discounts and coupons, there might not be a groundswell of complainers. Remember also that there will be other people who meet other criteria who may also get it cheaper... educational discounts, etc.. Of course, by the time you've paid the class fees, you're not saving any money overall. ;^) Are you going to hold them hostage to jealousy? I paid $89 (hopefully my box will get here tomorrow)... and don't begrudge the people who paid $69 or the people who are paying $99 or any other price. When buying anything I determine what its value is to me at that time and make the decision. Life is too short to fret over the purchasing decisions of several hundred thousand other people, who may possibly be saving a few dollars on one item when I probably saved a few dollars on another. Carolly

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... took extra long steps to save on his $10 shoes ...

... and ...

... split out his $20 pants.

$10 ? ... $20 ? ... I know, I know, but it's a very old joke.

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I still keep my opinion about Poser for serious hobby and commerical use and it is not simple as that. Some people may use Poser as a toy for wrong reasons. I would not sell Poser at Walmart. You know majority of customers in Walmart are welfare receipents, they cant keep their pants on. GWeb

LOL, that's good GWeb...LOL It is CHEAP!

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I can't afford to get pissed about this deal but it does sort of smack one in the face.....It is the special edition but download only and has a very limited amount of availibilty timewise......Regardless, It is a good deal for anyone that has held off trying to make up their mind about uprgrading....I would think for those holding out this is really going to be the best deal ever for this entire deal.....

Welp, thats what you rich folk get for rushing to pre-order, instead of waiting. it'll be half off before you know it. Ah, but a fool and their money. If you people like throwing your money away you can throw some in my direction. Let's see how low the price will be by the end of this month? :P

I don't agree. There will be better deals on Amazon. Gweb your walmart remarks are insulting and the moderators should do something about your assumptions and slander.

Yeah... If the welfare people found out you said they shopped at Walmart, they would be pissed off. :) (No welfare recipients were harmed in the telling of this joke) "Pozer is a toy. Simple as that" What's Pozer? I use "Poser" daily in the work I do. I am a professional using it in a professional manner. I would concider that a professional app. What constitutes a pro app? The cost? Let's see, if it isn't $15,000 and you don't have to wear slacks when you use it, it isn't pro. rolling eyes (in a professional manner)

Birddie, I wish I was a rich folk........

Sorry, one more time....I think the original poster of this thread actually does have a valid concern....I will be shooting off an email to CL later this morning....I don't mind the price I paid but it does irk me that like three days later the price has dropped.....The way this seems to be going the price could ten bucks within the next several weeks.....

Dont bother CL pls. Let them do their market stuff and its their business. You as a customer only can make decision to purchase their stuff or not. CL makes the decision on how they like to sell their products. Leave CL alone. Sheesh

Why not email CL? Remember we had the whole 1=1 currency exchange issue, where Europeans were forced to pay a very unfair rate. A lot of people complained about that witht he result that CL did something about it. How can a business know their customers feeling, either good or bad, if no one ever let's them know. If CL would have dropped the price in a few months, I would not have complained at all. But to drop the price now already and still sell the 'pre-order deal only' with it, that's just not right, imo.

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Currency exchange issue is different than complaining about CL's promo price. The promos is their market affair and please remember that Poser is their product. I would email to CL and ask them to roll the price up because Poser is a good investment for my projects. But, it is not professional to send the email to CL. I do not know their financial. My advice or suggestion may lead them into bankruptcy and a lot of bad stuff can happen to them. It is better to leave them alone and let them make their decision on market plan and promos. I do not want them just to have milk and bread for lunch everyday.

aeilkema, Well, their physical stocks of the suite won't hold up that many more weeks. At the time they end the boxed delivery, I suspect they'll also end the download delivery of the Special Edition. This is from Amazon.com... notorious for discounting: ******* "Curious Labs Poser 6 - 3D Figure Design and Animation Solution by Curious Labs, Inc. (CD-ROM) Windows 2000 / XP Software: See all 3 items (Rate this item) Buy new: $187.95 Used & new from $187.95 Usually ships in 1-2 business days" ****** Those poor people are going to get the red-boxed standard version for twice what we paid for Poser, Shade, AND the Winter Queen pack. No extras and no community helping each other find deals. Carolly

"Those poor people are going to get the red-boxed standard version for twice what we paid for Poser, Shade, AND the Winter Queen pack. No extras and no community helping each other find deals." I know that, but that's not the point at all. Poser 6 with Shade and the Winter Queen pack, was promised to pre-order customers only. Here's the email CL sent out before Poser 6 was released: ---------------------------------------------------------- In celebration of Poser 6 expected in spring this year, Curious Labs has created a very exciting preorder promotion. Poser 6 Special Edition not only brings to you the power of this latest release, but also offers you the majestic Winter Queen Figure Pack, a beautifully designed box created in the Winter Queen theme and a full version of Shade designer LE with PoserFusion. Poser, the Winter Queen Figure Pack, Shade designer LE and PoserFusion together, creates one of the most powerful 3D solutions available by integrating Poser into Shade. Preordering Poser 6 now insures you that you will not only receive this Special Edition offer - a product valued at over $400 US, but that you will receive this offer priced at or below the order price of Poser 6 when shipping this spring. Poser 6 Special Edition will be available by preorder for $239 US / 219 Euro / 150 Pounds which will increase after the release of Poser 6. Curious Labs is now offering Poser 6 at closer to market currency value outside of the US, making this product an even more affordable power-solution worldwide. When the Poser 6 Special Edition runs out, Poser 6 will be available for $249 / 229 / ₤157. Preordered upgrades will be available from $129 US / 119 Euro / 82 Pounds, but only those who order in time will receive the Poser 6 Special Edition. And remember, all preordered product will not be charged to your credit card until the day it ships! ------------------------------------------------------ Preordering Poser 6 now insures you that you will not only receive this Special Edition offer - a product valued at over $400 US, but that you will receive this offer priced at or below the order price of Poser 6 when shipping this spring. but only those who order in time will receive the Poser 6 Special Edition. This is not the case at all, I've been lied too, which ever way you turn it. The price contrary to the promise has not gone up but even down instead and not only those who order in time will receive the special edition, still you get the special edition when ordering. Of course you can defend CL anyway you want, I don't mind, I don't think their evil or something. I do understand their position, but I've trusted their promise and now they've clearly broken it. That ticks me off, theirs something like honor even for a business and this latest CL action wasn't very honorable at all.

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I paid $59, so I don't really have a dog in this fight; I still got a better deal. Still, I do understand why people are upset. It wasn't rich people throwing their money away, or people too dopey to consider that the price might go down. It was that CL said that the price would not be lower. Were they intentionally lying to us? Were they forced to lower the price because P6 didn't sell as well as they hoped? Are they just too disorganized to remember what they promised in their earlier mailings? None of those possibilities is very reassuring.

And I bet CL would dearly love to have Poser in every Wal-Mart. You want CL to sell millions of copies, that's the way to do it.

Those of you who are complaining have completely missed the point. You only know of this because I posted the heads up. I got the information from ContentParadise.com How many of you have already deleted the Content tab from your Poser 6 install? Curious Labs has (to my estimation) added value to the ContentParadise. It makes business sense to feature its partners (Hey, your at Renderosity a Content Paradise partner). "But I already know how to use my browser!" If you've been here long enough, I hope so and, I'm sure you have links to sites not partnered up with CL. But for the new users it has a value. They'll get to the partner sites and join the forums and we'llbe glad to have them. Egad! How dare CL try and do something that makes business sense. Oh yeah, that sale was for only TWO DAYS. I posted near the end of the sale on Sunday Afternoon. So I had kept my posting to myself, YOU NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN! How shocking it would be when sometime down the road George or Jane Newbie (my suggestion for the P7 Male and Female BTW!) requests help with their $99.00 Poser 6. What? Where? When? Two day sale back in April? Why was there no mention of this? What is Curious Labs trying to hide? What a RIP! I got my Poser 5 for $99.00 from Amazon. Who remembers that? Who got upset? Was I p*ssed that I didn't get the great deal those early Poser 5 adopters got for Poser 6? Is there a better way needed to highlight the use of Content Paradise? Maybe. But if you dissed it, you missed it. Got it now?

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No. I deleted the tab. But CP is on my list of regular haunts, and has been since it went live for P6. I visit it almost daily, just like I visit other Poser sites, like this one, DAZ, PPros, Faerie-Dreams, etc. Just to see what's going on. And if I miss a site one day, I know that someone will post the info here, or at DAZ, or PP, etc. No CP tab required. Frankly, I don't use Poser every day. I do browse the web every day.

Maybe CL's just realizing that poser's not worth as much. We bought it with dreams of what it might be, they sold it expecting it to be wonderful, but now that it's had some real-world "testing," they're learning otherwise.

"*But if you *dissed* it, you *missed* it."* No, I didn't... I tore out Content Parasite long ago; but I just paid $99 for P6 and Shade 7 LE this mornng (so much for it being a weekend promo...) (for the curious, I'm downloading it via firefox on Linux SuSE 9.2... I'll burn it to CD and play with it when I get home, time permitting... figured since most folks had little problem with it (unlike P5), I'd give it a more thorough going-over for the Blather.) /P

randym77 wrotes: "And I bet CL would dearly love to have Poser in every Wal-Mart. You want CL to sell millions of copies, that's the way to do it. " Yeah they would love to feed it to the predators. Poser does have value and I want it to be kept in good market place for serious artists/animators. That is why I said I would send an email to CL and ask to roll the price up if they can. Software with low price is usually for people who do not have business income and tend for home use to play with. For example Visual Studio NET cost about $1,500 and Adobe sets cost about $2,500. Have you noticed your neighbors used VS NET or ADOBE? If you are in Beverly Hills or SunCity neighborhood, you would notice that they have used it. They used it with their market skills to make some good income in good market place. Low price on Poser lost some of its reputation in the commercial world. You know what Poser would be like if it is in every of your neighbors? I think we have enough of nasty gallery in Renderosity. CGTalk is a good gallery place to go to for serious viewer and professional artists. GWeb

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Gweb I shop Wal-mart and am neither on Welfare, nor have a problem keeping my pants on, thank you very much. My MOTHER happens to work at a Wal-mart for a second job. I used to work at Wal-mart several years ago. I will thank you to knock off the nasty comments when it is clear you are offering up a very nasty stereotype. And yes, I took advantage of 3 promotions to get the $60 price. So to be complaining about the price... Give me a break.

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You don't have to be rich to use Adobe or Lightwave even. Just have to keep an eye out for a good deal, and save money. And tax refunds help too. ;) Poser does have value and I want it to be kept in good market place for serious artists/animators. That is why I said I would send an email to CL and ask to roll the price up if they can. lol Most Poser users enjoy the program as a hobby. If you want to be a serious animator... Poser really isn't the ideal program. At all. Ok everyone raise your hand if you want Poser 7 to cost you $1000 just so you can be an art snob. Don't be shy now. :P

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How 'bout $1,999.00 ???

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Raises two hands.... in despair :-) Please don't make me pay $1000, please don't turn me into an art snob.... I've seen at the Vue forum what it does to people when they become one, it's nasty.

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I'm sure CL wouldn't mind if someone wanted to send them an extra thousand bucks for their software, or better yet, I'll be happy to sell you my copy for a thousand if it'll make you feel like you're getting a better product. ;)

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GWeb sez: "Yeah they would love to feed it to the predators. Poser does have value and I want it to be kept in good market place for serious artists/animators. That is why I said I would send an email to CL and ask to roll the price up if they can." ROTFLMAO! Please post this to CG Talk... please?

Maybe CL's just realizing that poser's not worth as much. We bought it with dreams of what it might be, they sold it expecting it to be wonderful, but now that it's had some real-world "testing," they're learning otherwise. Considering that there are an enormous number of hardware and software configurations available, and also considering that beta testing is usually done by a limited number of people, it's probably impossible to detect ALL bugs in a software product before it is released. That goes for any software product, not just CL in particular. In a community where the negative comments usually far outweigh the positive ones, we are seeing the reverse in relation to Poser 6. As far as I'm concerned, the signal-to-noise ratio is nowhere near the volume it was after the release of P5. I see more positive than negative comments. I'd say P6 is doing real well so far, considering that the folks in the Poser community are quite a talkative lot. 8-) CL has been very responsive to the bad reports thus far. They are working on solutions as quickly as they can.

The deal is gone now anyway...

I preordered Poser 6 ONLY because I've been told by Curious Lab that the price would not be the same or lower after the pre-ordering period was over. If I had known they were going to sell it for $30US less a few weeks later, I would have waited because I am not rich, I shop at WalMart regularly and BTW I am just fed-up with GWeb's nasty comments all over the place here. GWeb, who do you think you are anyway? How can you lower yourself so much as to visit us, the lower people, here at Renderosity? Shame on you! The least you could do is have a conference call every day with all the top notch professional artists in the world if you are so rich. And instead of asking CL to up the price of Poser so Poser will have a reputation of a great professional program, why don't you buy a real great professional program elsewhere and stop bothering us lower artists who happen to like "playing" with Poser? I think, like a few others who posted here, that CL should refund that $30US to all those who pre-ordered... even those who bought the box version because if we could have bought the DL version for $99 and the box version for $129, I for one would have bought the DL version at the time. France

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I wonder who GWeb is? No home Artist's Page info, no gallery...When someone talks like that I expect to see some 'serious' work behind them. GWeb, is there anywhere you do post work that we can learn something about you? There is nothing wrong with democratising creativity, there is no reason that I can see why such oportunities should be limited to those with a business income. Any art media has its bad examples but many more great artists have discovered their talents, be it in painting, film-making, or photography, by having orportunities that might once have been beyond their means. However, if you are willing to debate this cordially and rationally, then please, come back and support your case. I am always open to dabate.

Well, I have to apologize, this was a huge mistake internally. This was supposed to be the STANDARD box. NOT the Special Edition. The Standard Box is a Red Box, Pic attached, that will be the only version available after the Special Edition is sold out. Which will happen very soon. It was not intended the SE be sold for $99. The Standard version does not include the add on pack or Shade 7 LE, and will be available $129. So in effect the few people that did order this got one heck of a deal. The special edition will never be available at that price, and will soon be unavailable all together. It was pulled from the site immediately when we realized the mistake. Steve Curious Labs

That's what I thought. Steve, there were a lot of people that just could not believe our eyes, myself for one. It was so awful to see that $99 after we all paid $129 and up, it had to either be a mistake or a betrayal. Thanks for posting here and apologizing. And if you read the whole thread, we are offering to pay $1000 for Poser if you give us a new rigging system so all the character's shoulders/arms are more natural. Where do I send my check? ::::: Opera :::::

Before I post this, I will say that Mr. Web has ticked me off several times. And...every once in a while he says something valuable. I am not sure what is your story GWeb. Sigh. Well...here goes.... Are any of you guys fans of Ayn Rand? She has a character in her novel The Fountainhead, a pseudo-architect who is the artistic equivelant of a bully. He is loud and obnoxious and crude and puts his fist through other people's work. The character's name? Gus Web. ::::: Opera :::::

Well, mistake is human so there is nothing more to say about this than "Good for those who were able to benefit from that mistake!" ;o) France

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WRONG --- You can say something! It is your right and duty if you feel ripped off. If not? Then you are just fine. No worries.

Message edited on: 04/04/2005 14:20

So, is Curious Labs not allowed to make a mistake?

Let (s)he who has never made a mistake post the first negative comment.

Thank you clsteve for the clarification and the quick admission of the mistake that was made.

And to those who got a "smokin' deal" ..... CONGRATULATIONS !!!

Not everyone wins the lottery either, no?

JMVHO-ICBW.

cheers,
dr geep <------------ gets P6 todays and then he will disappear (maybe, ha ha) ;=]
;=]
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

Well I'm pretty p'd off with GWeb's comments now, - I thought he was banned at some stage?

I am on "Welfare" - my wife pissed off and left me with a few thousand dollars of debt and a couple of intellectually disabled children to care for - perhaps I should go out and get a job and leave them to care for themselves to make Mr. Web happy!

I don't seem to have a problem with my pants.

What is a Wal-Mart?

Yea - let's jack up the price of Poser so as what little enjoyment I do get in life these days is beyond my reach.

And like others above, I'm quite anxious to see all of Mr. web's amazing artwork, which it must be fantastic, from the way he talks.I notice he has only been a member since 7/10/2004 - maybe you have to have been around as long as me to have a gallery (02/16/1999 )

Is this the same person who was running down the render engine of P6 before it was even released or am I confusing him with someone else?

I can take quite a bit if it is in good humor - but some of this guy's comments are below the belt and have no place in the Poser forum.

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I was suppose to get a credit of $30.00, but didn't, that does bother me a little, since it is in an email and they did not honor that. Sharen

"I have to apologize, this was a huge mistake internally. " No need to apologze to me... I got one hell of a deal out of it! :) /P

WHOAAAAAAA! My Poser 6 JUST ARRIVED. Ups guy walkin away as we speak. Winter queen with bizarre sun tan on the box! See you guys next week. ::::: Opera ::::: P.S. Steve, I really meant that about the new rig.

You people must please try to understand that GWeb is nothing but a troll. He has been trolling threads ever since he/she joined Rosity. I have been involved in threads where he was VERY vocal (like he ever isn't). I have asked over and over and over again to see some artwork. He always skates the subject by not responding to "that particular" part of the post. He is VERY good at flying just below the radar. The best thing we can do is not get upset (since that is the intended reaction) and take pity on his pour misguided soul. When people stop getting upset and just ignore him, he will go away out of bordom. I love the line from 5th Element "evil begets evil". The more people get pissed off and rant, the more fuel to his fire. As a matter of fact, he is probably reading this post right now and giggleing with some sort of weird satisfaction. Just my 2 cents...

Hi LDLD, <---- too lazy to spell the whole name out ;=] We just need to ... lower the radar ..... no? Now, we got 4 cents. cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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I believe it looks like this. cheers, dr geep ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

Lowering the radar would do it. Ban his A$$ with love and kindness. :) LOL

BTW: I love your artwork. It has a look all it's own.

Thanks Joe .... re: the "ban" ... isn't that a roll-on deodo ........ nevermind. ;=[ ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

What else is new? We got screwed again because of greed. I thought the Special Edition sale ended the day before the shipping date. Granted I got the $89 (plus shipping) "upgrade special," I missed out on the other specials others got for a lot less. I see I need to stop buying brokered products from people who seem to lack compassion for those who live on limited incomes and can't afford to pay for multi-thousand dollar programs. Maybe some of you need a wake-up call.

Poser 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Pro 2014, 11, 11 Pro

Sheesh ...
Some peeps would complain ifn they wuz gonna be hung with a brand new rope.
;=[

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

re: " ... I missed out on the other specials others got for a lot less."

What "other specials" ?

;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2190054

Hey operaguy, Maybe we should point Steve to these threads and they can print and post them up for Version 7. #1: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2190054 #2: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=2144448 And per message #42, I'm putting in an early bid to have the Poser 7 folks names George and Jane.

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Crucify them, I say!! Give us Barrabas!! ...what? ...oh, to late again? Drat! To the Painter Forum then! Bring pitchforks, and burny-stick-things...I mean torches!!! Wait, Painter is a good program and no one is bitching... .....drat, again! To the Amorphium Forum, my brothers and sisters..... Aiiiiiiiieeeeee!!!!! (as we all fall into the "no new posts during this century" black hole) g'snix, looking to take down "the Man".....

Dr. geep with all those arrows I think you have a flash animation plugged into the alternate diffuse node and a power point slide show into the bump map. they disallowed that kind of thing in Poser 6. ::::: Opera :::::

GWeb, weren't you banned before for trolling and obnoxiousness? What I want to know is, why didn't it sink in?

I am not complaining when I made my comment, but to be honest, it does bother me that I was promised something and they did not deliver. Our customers expect that if we make a promise we follow through with it, so I should expect that from other vendors. Yes, the upgrade price was well worth it, but again, don't email me a promise if you are not going to follow through with it. I emailed CL with my concerns and it is in their hands now and I will patiently wait an answer. Sharen

< SARCASM > Yup, GWeb's almost as offensive as topless toddlers. Off with his head! < /SARCASM >

dlfurman Yes we should and the thread you started is tne most intense one. Regardless of your actions, I am going to do so, and if you do too, that will increase the impact. Iming him. ::::: Opera :::::

yp6, My topless toddler resents that.

And per message #42, I'm putting in an early bid to have the Poser 7 folks names George and Jane. No you've got it al messed up now, isn't supposed to be Tarzan & Jane..... Unless you're reffering to George of the Jungle, but I till prefer Tarzan :-)

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk

He's referring to George and Jane Jetson, I think.

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One of the only things decent about this fourm are Gweb's comments. LOL. It's a riot! Don't be so serious. Heck, some of us just lost $50 bucks.

Please don't hurt me....I'm one of those that bought the special package for 99$ this morning. I was going to wait until all the bugs were worked out, but for the 99$ price, I just couldn't pass it up. If it makes you feel any better, I'm still trying to get a serial number for my Shade. Personally I think that those of you that pre-ordered should get at least something back....maybe a gift certificate for content paradise. Oh and Gweb....you are really showing your ignorance with all those comments you've been making. Folks like you can only feel good about your miserable self if you are cutting down other people....Seems to me that you are trying to overcompensate for some, erm, small body parts?

:-)

:-))

FWIW...yp6 is suspected of being GWeb's sock puppet.

FWIW...yp6 is suspected of being GWeb's sock puppet. Nah, just a hater of censorship in all its ugly (and especially its stupid) forms.

Please don't hurt me.... amberlover13, why should we, just be happy to be so very lucky! cooler, cool down please.....

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk

?

Ah yes, but is it BRAND new?

Edited to remove all violence, nudity, TOS violations, and TOP SECRET material.

;=]

Message edited on: 04/04/2005 18:13

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

The problem is cooler is that license is only valid in the US Any chance of an international license so I can ditch the nonlethal options?

Yanno what Yp6... There's a difference between censorship and inflammatory comments. Inflammatory comments have no place in a conversation and certainly are not welcomed. GWeb's falls under inflammatory. signed; Someone who shops Wal-mart and has 3 jobs ontop of being a single parent...

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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aeilkema...glad you all aren't angry with me. LOL But I sure wouldn't want to be GWeb right about now, especially with that new hunting licence that just came out. I'm a single mom too, and Wal-Mart rules in my books....

Anyway guys, if GWeb is as smart as he thinks he is, he wouldn't show up here using the same username, now would he?

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One never knows .......... stupidity is not illegal ! ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

Sorry guys, as much fun as this thread is ... I'm gonna have to bail out cause there are over 100 posts and it takes almost 20 minutes to scroll down everytine some makes a new post. Anybody for starting a new thread, linking it to this one, and continuing the discussion there? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

BTW - everytine = everytime .... but then, you knew that, didn't you? ;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019

This has been such an interesting thread. Now I'll put on my pants and go to Wal-Mart.

I think the Mods need to stick a fork in the thread... It's done.

Ok, fun's fun, but it's tie to lock this...

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